More Than 100 to Be Arrested in Federal Disability Fraud Bust (racist, Obama)

[HappyTexan]

If 41% didn't qualify for "free cellphones" how many do you think don't qualify for a pension for life ?

[d4g4m]

Over 8 million collecting disability and they select 106 to prosecute. Would we even hear about this if it wasn't a small selected group of police and firefighters? Why them and not any of the other 8 million?
Would it be news if they were carpenters, plumbers or a Home Depot garden department employee?

[parfleche]

Originally Posted by d4g4m

Over 8 million collecting disability and they select 106 to prosecute. Would we even hear about this if it wasn't a small selected group of police and firefighters? Why them and not any of the other 8 million?
Would it be news if they were carpenters, plumbers or a Home Depot garden department employee?

106 is just the start there are thousands of gov workers pulling this crap and they could care less about the taxpayer paying them.You defending these criminals? sounds like it to me.

[michiganmoon]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

He said he never met anyone that doesn't mean there aren't any.

Obama said that he traveled the country and had all of these various occupations in his life and never met an American that would rather have a free paycheck than an honest job.

Obama is:
#1 Using Patriotism as a gimmick
#2 Either being disingenuous (again) or living a highly sheltered life to make that statement
#3 Clearly stretching the reality to downplay a real concern by acting like any abuse in the system is negligible.

Obama is not having an honest discussion and debate on whether or not people should have more than 2 years of straight unemployment benefits.

Originally Posted by Goodnight

Very few people enjoy being unemployed and disability fraud is quite different, that is what this thread is about.

I know people who not only enjoy being unemployed, they actively seek to stay unemployed to keep the benefits rolling in, I know a man who asked to get laid off...

There isn't a difference. Obama said Americans do not want a free pay check, but rather an honest job - and he has never met an American where this wasn't the case. What were these SSDI con artists arrested for? They wanted a free pay check not an honest job. What is the problem with unemployment for years? Many people on it end up enjoying the free money more than working.

[ALackOfCreativity]

Originally Posted by malamute

I suspect there is more fraud than honesty. Big money for liars, you know too many will be tempted.

While we obviously can't precisely quantify how much fraud and abuse is in the system, we can see what the percentage of easily faked/exaggerated conditions is from before disability rates spiked and after (the law was changed in the interim to make it much easier to claim -- goal was to reduce hurdles for people with a bonafide disability, which is good, but was done in a way to open the door to fraud in a huge way, which is bad). The change in proportion of these conditions versus general disabling conditions can be used as a (very rough) proxy.

1961:
Back Pain & Other Musculoskeletal Problems: 8.3%
Mental Illness, Developmental Disability, etc.: 9.6%
Total Most Easily Faked/Exaggerated Categories: 17.9%

2011:
Back Pain & Other Musculoskeletal Problems: 33.8%
Mental Illness, Developmental Disability, etc.: 19.2%
Total Most Easily Faked/Exaggerated Categories: 53%

Source: http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

Using these numbers as a rough proxy, we see that a tremendous number of newly disabled workers are probably defrauding the system, but it's still likely that over half of current accepted disability applicants are truly disabled. Not that failing to cross that threshold makes it okay......

[malamute]

Originally Posted by ALackOfCreativity

While we obviously can't precisely quantify how much fraud and abuse is in the system, we can see what the percentage of easily faked/exaggerated conditions is from before disability rates spiked and after (the law was changed in the interim to make it much easier to claim -- goal was to reduce hurdles for people with a bonafide disability, which is good, but was done in a way to open the door to fraud in a huge way, which is bad). The change in proportion of these conditions versus general disabling conditions can be used as a (very rough) proxy.

1961:
Back Pain & Other Musculoskeletal Problems: 8.3%
Mental Illness, Developmental Disability, etc.: 9.6%
Total Most Easily Faked/Exaggerated Categories: 17.9%

2011:
Back Pain & Other Musculoskeletal Problems: 33.8%
Mental Illness, Developmental Disability, etc.: 19.2%
Total Most Easily Faked/Exaggerated Categories: 53%

Source: http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

Using these numbers as a rough proxy, we see that a tremendous number of newly disabled workers are probably defrauding the system, but it's still likely that over half of current accepted disability applicants are truly disabled. Not that failing to cross that threshold makes it okay......

Yes, that's pretty interesting. And there is no way that mental illness and sore backs would have gone up that much from 1961 to 2011 --- and yes, those are very easily faked. Nice free money!

There is no reason someone with a sore back can't work some kind of job, there are many jobs that don't require lifting or much physical work -- there are jobs that allow one to sit all day.

Laying around doing nothing isn't going to cure what ails you -- you're really better off if you keep moving.

[pknopp]

If the government was consistant here they would simply fine them a portion of their ill begotten gains and let them be on their way like they do with the banks.

[mlassoff]

So, when cops, firefighters and prison guards abuse public assistance the Conservatives remain silent... When a single, black mother buys seafood there is screaming outrage.

I wonder why?

http://www.ibtimes.com/former-nyc-po...nsurance-fraud

[Grsz11]

And they used 9/11. Pretty messed up.

[uggabugga]

You wonder, eh?
Well, wonder no more.

More Than 100 to Be Arrested in Federal Disability Fraud Bust