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Struggling to understand....homosexuals should be free to live as they please, and homophobics should be free to condemn, criticize, demean, and try to pass laws to limit the freedom of homosexuals....as long as the homophobics actually don't get the laws passed? As long as the laws already passed continue to stand?
Actually the word homophobe is a buzz word invented by the homosexual community to say their is something wrong with a person who believes that homosexuality and the homosexual acts are wrong..
Next we will we hear the word pedophobe or adulteryphobe..incestaphobe calling those who believe that pedophilia, adultery or incest is wrong.
And I'm confused because you seem to approve of Taratova's posts, which actually contradict what you've said above.
Assumptions you definitely made. Explain to me how agreeing with one post equates to agreeing with all. You state here that i seem to approve of Taratova's posts. How did you come to that conclusion? From this?
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Originally Posted by caribdoll
I completely agree with the initial post.
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Originally Posted by Taratova
No, it is truth and you know it if you have common sense.. they take on the word gay.. as their identity.. many here say they are gay and that is what they believe is their lifestyle. A sexual act is what they define themselves as.
True. Further, many want everyone to accept their lifestyle as normal and right, which is extremely problematic. They should, however, be free to live as they please.
My first statement is that I completely agree with the INITIAL POST. I quoted what I agree with from one of Taratova's posts...nothing more. And further stated that, regardless, they should be free to live as they please. Anything else is an assumption on your part.
It's certainly up to you if you choose not to respect that rights of others to believe whatever they choose. Not sure why you are going into an explanation of your beliefs on the Book of Leviticus.
Because ignorant religious people who know nothing about the original scriptures love to quote Leviticus to demonize gay people, when they know nothing about what that Book is.
What about if someones religion says that women should not be shopping? Should they have the right to deny service to females? Or blacks, or Jews. or ________? What if they believe that unruly children should be stoned? Can they murder their children and claim religious exemption? What if someones religious beliefs say raising pigs in their back yard is necessary? Should zoning laws not apply to them?
Anyone that breaks any law could claim "religious belief" and not be penalized. OR is it only religious beliefs that YOU personally agree with that should get special exemptions?
Last time I checked, this was a wedding event, not a shopping spree. To some, a wedding or any part of a wedding is considered religious and has its own set of rules and beliefs. Some would disagree. Any way you put it, someone of religious affiliation that doesn't agree with homosexual marriages should not be forced to partake in any part of a gay marriage if he/she chooses.
That's what my initial post stated but yet you had a problem with it. I stated that homosexuals have the right to live as they please but should not attempt to make everyone accept their practices as normal and/or right. Period.
ETA: AND I have voted according to the belief that homosexuals have the right to live as they choose.
Still confusing....they have the right to live as they please, but not the right to be accepted for living as they please???
To me, it sounds like you are saying they are free to be deviants, but they should accept that they are deviants, and that people will treat them badly because they are deviants. But they are free to be deviants, so it's all good.
And I think homosexuals are saying that they realize that there are some religious fundamentalists that think that homosexuality is wrong, but that is just an opinion. As homosexuals hurt no one, they don't deserve to be treated badly. Our society has treated them badly, from putting them in jail to denying them basic rights. And so, it's not all good. Respect is a two-way street. The idea that religious fundamentalists deserve to have their beliefs respected, at the expense of others, is essentially hypocritical. Religious fundamentalists can believe whatever they wish, and homosexuals can believe whatever they wish, and it's all good as long as there is no discrimination. Currently, there is discrimination, so it isn't all good.
High profile people say rude things all the time but don't face the same consequences and backlash that those who say rude things about the gay community do..... why is that?
No, I don't "have a problem" with oral sex, nor do I "have a problem" with homosexuals.
It is natural and nature teaches that men are to be with a woman.
No matter how you look at it... it is so..if you want to let feelings rule you , then you will fall into any enticing idea or thought to rule you.
Ever hear of self control? Or common sense? Many do not adhere to any standard and have no concept of what is right or wrong. Anything can be acceptable today if they work on it to be acceptable.. mankind can argue to obtain that acceptance through rationalizing anything in themselves. Any thought .
If someone felt they wanted to rob something, it starts in the mind.. if they entertain that thought they are closer to acting on that thought to rob.. if they dismiss it as being foolish or not acceptable they will not. If they have that thought, they can push it out of their mind or act on it.
Some people have no concept of their own self control and are impulsive. They act on it quickly what they think at the time. One can be taught self control with a belief system of what is right or wrong. Others reject it and do what they will. Many people have a rebellious spirit and will not even adhere to the laws of the land and wind up in jail for their entire life.
One must think out what their thoughts are and if they are good or bad. Some people are handed any drug and will take it without reservation that it could kill them or hook them into a life living under a bridge. Others think it is cool to be rebellious and way beyond the norm. People are also being desensitized by shows like sister wives, or chasing after material things at any cost with shows that idolize wealth while having no moral concept at all.
And so it is, man can fall into all kinds of situations and it starts in the mind . Self control is a good trait to have and one who masters it well can be in control of their life.
Still more bloviations about homosexuality and "the mind" from Taratova while refusing to tell us why we should listen to a thing you say. Where did you get your degree in psychology? What are your credentials that allow you to spew this crap as if it actually has any meaning? Do tell.
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