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True to an extent. They tell us, but they bury the information in a lot of superfluous garbage. You have to dig through the processed haystack to find the pearl.
Agreed. I do that every month the with BLS employment report.
As they say..the devil is in the details.
I know reality is different than what the government tells us.
Sigh. No.
What you know is the falsehoods you have been told without any actual understanding or research. What you know is your assumptions.
Lets list some of them:
1 trillion a year increasing at 20%
OK so 2012-2013 what rate did it increase at? Go look. Go ahead, we can wait.
Oh look it went down!
maybe its that evil food stamp program!
Hmmm nope.
"Even a mandated $15/hr wouldn't get them off welfare programs!"
Sigh. Really? Maybe you should go look?
they get about 600 in food stamps, and 300 or so in tanf. (yeah that goes far i am sure). I assure you they can't make 3X that amount and still collect it. (was surprised...really? 332 for 4 people? wow. I make that in less then a day.
Oh no milk programs for the poor! SEVEN of them!
Lets see...WIC (which is for babies and very young children)
there is another for kids in school I think
and...thats all I got, what do you have for those 7 programs? And how do they overlap, whats their total cost?
Seriously, you're listening to people tell you stuff, and not fact checking them at all. It makes you do and say things based upon propaganda.
Even a mandated $15/hour won't get them off welfare programs.
That comes out to $31,200/ yr if at 40hr/wk. In some states that might be enough to get by in others no way.
In my day both the wife and I worked, so if the family of 4 today were able to earn that $15/hr for both parents income goes to $62,400. Enough to get off the system.
TANF is also put on EBT cards as well as SNAP.
And TANF does have a cash part that can be used for whatever they want..no questioned asked.
Once TANF is placed on their cards it becomes THEIR money to spend however they want.
A lot of people get child support on EBT cards. Once a woman gets into the system, the state continues to pay out child support long after the parent may need any other form of welfare. The state continues to handle child support so that they can take a cut of it every month to "pay back the system".
So, some of those people using their EBT cards in far off places, or places some people don't approve of, just may be using their own money and not money from the government. You just never know.
What you know is the falsehoods you have been told without any actual understanding or research. What you know is your assumptions.
Lets list some of them:
1 trillion a year increasing at 20%
OK so 2012-2013 what rate did it increase at? Go look. Go ahead, we can wait.
Oh look it went down!
maybe its that evil food stamp program!
Hmmm nope.
"Even a mandated $15/hr wouldn't get them off welfare programs!"
Sigh. Really? Maybe you should go look?
they get about 600 in food stamps, and 300 or so in tanf. (yeah that goes far i am sure). I assure you they can't make 3X that amount and still collect it. (was surprised...really? 332 for 4 people? wow. I make that in less then a day.
Oh no milk programs for the poor! SEVEN of them!
Lets see...WIC (which is for babies and very young children)
there is another for kids in school I think
and...thats all I got, what do you have for those 7 programs? And how do they overlap, whats their total cost?
Seriously, you're listening to people tell you stuff, and not fact checking them at all. It makes you do and say things based upon propaganda.
Do you just make up the rules as you go ?
So if you don't know it in your head then it doesn't exist ?
Because you only know of 2 milk programs then that must mean there aren't any more ?
There are SEVEN different milk programs and each one is administered by a staff earning salary and pensions. The last milk program.."Special Milk Program" is for people who didn't qualify for any of the other six programs.
Maybe you should do a bit more reading on the government programs before producing your "facts" ?
Over $1 trillion a year and growing at 20% annually.
Sooner or later you will give a hoot.
What a load of BS. Food stamps don't cost remotely any where near $1 trillion and that is a number you just pulled out of your backside.
Quote:
SNAP benefits costs $76.4 billion in Fiscal Year 2013 and supplied roughly 47.6 million Americans with an average of $133.08 per month in food assistance.
You're off by a factor of ~13 or more than an order of magnitude.
Really? a factor of 13? You think?
do the math, do you think 133/mo is the average welfare amount? or are you thinking its more like 1,500 PER PERSON?
FACT:the average per person is $133
Or do you disagree with the number of people collecting food stamps? 46 million? Are you thinking its 598 million? the entire population of the united states?
FACT, itss not 598 million, it is in fact that earliers number.
Now...do some math. Let me help you-the answer is # of people * average cost is.....
I am over myself, you're the one coming on an internet forum claiming you're superwoman, I simply responded to it.
If that's how you wish to interpret it, knock yourself out with your hatred. I posted that to illustrate that it's a b.s. excuse. You responded that you have had more than one job at a time, too. Should I also call you "superwoman"?
Greywar, the figure of $133 is indeed correct; I'm the one who told you that. Also, if you'd bothered to check the link I provided, it is the US Budget line item amount for food stamps.
The total per year the US budget spends on SNAP is $76.4 billion per year which isn't even close to the retarded claim of $1 trillion made previously. That's US budget data.
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SNAP benefits costs $76.4 billion in Fiscal Year 2013 and supplied roughly 47.6 million Americans with an average of $133.08 per month in food assistance.
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