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Old 01-09-2014, 01:01 PM
 
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The argument is that the method chosen can cause someone to be conscious, and suffocating to death slowly.

I'd like to think our nations better then that, but hey we water boarded a guy a couple hundred times so maybe not.

But...Id like to think it. Cant we just shoot the guy or hang him? What was wrong with the old method?
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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I was just reading what you wrote:

"It's not as if he didn't CAUSE pain and terror to HIS victim, yet he asks to be spared that which he didn't spare another human being from?"

In that sentence you're not talking about sparing (or not sparing) his life, but rather sparing (or not sparing) him pain and terror.
In that sentence, based on it's sentence structure, I note, he asks for something, he refused to another human being. The premise is, not what is about to happen, or HOW it's going to happen to him, but the fact he asks for something he did not provide to another human being. Whatever the action to take place isn't the issue, I am discussing that he asks that he not go through that which he did to someone else.

SO, I am not discussing the sparing, or NOT sparing pain, but that he asks for that which he refused another person.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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In that sentence, based on it's sentence structure, I note, he asks for something, he refused to another human being. The premise is, not what is about to happen, or HOW it's going to happen to him, but the fact he asks for something he did not provide to another human being. Whatever the action to take place isn't the issue, I am discussing that he asks that he not go through that which he did to someone else.

SO, I am not discussing the sparing, or NOT sparing pain, but that he asks for that which he refused another person.
Yeah - I know. That's exactly what I pointed out. This man claims this method of execution will cause him pain and terror, which is what he gave his victim - a death filled with pain and terror.

You're decrying that he's asking for that which he refused his victim - a death without pain and terror. How am I suppose to read that any other way than you wishing to see this man put to death in a manner that brings him pain and terror?
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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There is a law banning cruel and unusual punishment, however it doesn't exempt me wishing pain and suffering on a cruel rapist murderer. I feel no sympathy what so ever for any suffering such a person may endure for his evil crimes.
Thanks for clarifying. Of course, you're perfectly within your rights to desire for unconstitutional methods to be used.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:27 PM
 
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When we as a nation choose to inflict that evil upon others when we can choose to not do so and still resolve the problem, we are no better then them.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:34 PM
 
Location: texas
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When we as a nation choose to inflict that evil upon others when we can choose to not do so and still resolve the problem, we are no better then them.
You can't stop people from having their bloodlust fantasies of torture. Saner heads will prevail.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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They have complicated chemical cocktails for execution while a single dose of beuthanathesia is good enough for a loyal pet that has to be put down.

Go for a colonoscopy and get a shot of versed and you are out, out ,out ..just add some veterinary euthanasia solution and you are done. DUH!
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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You didn't say "pain" - you said "same pain"
So ram a broomstick up his butt, then make him gasp in the gas chamber. Seems appropriate to me after the violent way he treated his victim.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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A simple bullet to the back of the head would suffice. I will agree that torturing the SOB would make us no better than what he did to his victim. But we shouldn't spend another dime in taxpayers money feeding this POS 3 hots and a cot!
That's what the Russian do. They grab him from the cell on the pretext of visiting his lawyer or some such nonsense. On the way to the visiting room, they push him into a room with a drain, force him to his knees and a Makarov pumps a round into the back of his head. No fuss, no muss.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:44 PM
 
Location: North America
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Not that I''m at all sympathetic to this guy, but we are not barbarians, and we do not torture the condemned to death.

If we resorted to that, we would not be any better than any other tyrant.
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