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Old 01-14-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
lolz to you because genetics also disproves the outdated 19th century notion of "evolution".
Great. I want the 21st century version...... Lolz.

 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I won't waste time responding to rhetorical drivel, which defines the majority of your contribution to discussions.
Some day you will attempt an insult that is not ironic and the rest of us will throw a party. With pie and cake.

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Consensus opinion means squat! Truth is not a democratic process, except in a room full of liberals.
That would be a more reasonable assertion were you not talking about the single most pragmatically productive enterprise in all of human history. Scientific consensus works. Religious consensus has never even existed, let alone deliver a tangible benefit to its practitioners. At no point in human history has there ever even been a majority religious viewpoint.

Type away, GnT at what science has delivered to you, and what religion has not.

You're very welcome.

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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas
As for reaching one's own conclusions, based on assessing evidence ... exactly when have you ever done that?
Continuously for the last half century. You should try it sometime.

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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas
All I hear outta you is "consensus" opinion ... incessantly.
That's all you hear? LOL... I knew you kept **** in your ears. I just didn't realize how much.

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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas
Now either this consensus is unlike every other consensus throughout history who have ultimately been proven wrong more often than not, or you are just another one of the followers whose chances of being correct are way less than 50/50.
As usual with your pathetic false dichotomies, those are not the only options. But in spectacular blind squirrel fashion you have found a nut. Scientific consensus, especially because of the way in which it is reached is absolutely different from most other consensus through history. That's why it works, and why so many other areas of human endeavor do not.

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To hear you tell it, the consensus is always right!!
I swear, if you could not set up pathetic straw men you'd have almost nothing to say. It is the single greatest foundational precept of science that its conclusions (and consensus) are always tentative, always subject to challenge, and always subordinated to evidence.

Again, this is why science works and religion does not.

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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas
History indeed shows that consensus opinion is more often wrong than right.
Oh? I'd really love to see you make that case. How would anybody pretend to even be able to know that?

Perhaps if you were considering only religion. Otherwise, you're pretty much just making stuff up as you go.

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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas
What was the name of that biologist who was ridiculed and locked away in a mental institution for trying to convince the members of the Royal Accademy of Medicine that they were endangering their patients by not washing their hands?
Ignaz Semmelweis was not committed to an asylum because he thought hand washing was good. He was committed because he went insane.

That said, again it was science and the scientific method that discovered the importance of hand-washing in hospitals. Not religion.

You need to stop taking wild shots. You are running out of feet.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That would be a more reasonable assertion were you not talking about the single most pragmatically productive enterprise in all of human history. Scientific consensus works.
The AGW hoax, anyone?
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
pretty simple: science requires proof.
There's your first mistake. Go take a science class.

Science rests on evidence, not proof. There is ample evidence of evolution. Proof is for alcohol and mathematics.

On the other hand, proof in a colloquial, non-scientific meaning is defined as "Convincing or persuasive demonstration", "Determination of the quality of something by testing", and as the world's scientists are convinced that the theory of evolution holds true, and has been tested and shown true, then it's been (colloquially speaking) proven true.

Q.E.D.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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The AGW hoax, anyone?
Lolz that's all you got?
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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Sure it does. Religious folks just don't like the proof because they can't reconcile it with their god.
Wrong. The rest of what you said is irrelevant.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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So many people in this thread have are displaying a sincere ignorance of evolution while saying they don't accept it. You cannot debate that out of person. It shows a fundamental failure occurred somewhere along the line in their education. That this attitude is so pervasive in the US is all the proof*one*needs that science education must be made a priority.
I think this simple post sums up the whole thread. Thanks.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It is a fact that ToE never addresses the origins of life on this planet.
Neither does ID.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Lolz that's all you got?
Scientific consensus can indeed get it wrong. Has happened repeatedly throughout history.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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Too many are getting ID wrong in this thread. Out of ignorance? Narrow-mindedness? Intellectual laziness? All of the above?

In the News: Ohio School Board Debates Teaching 'Intelligent Design'
No, mainly just you.
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