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Old 01-10-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Question is, supplimental to what? If one has nothing, then it's not supplimental. It is basic to survival.
Supplemental to your own money. That is the government definition.
They figure it supplements 30% of your total food bill.

So if they give you $200/month in food stamp then your total food budget is $666.66 a month.
(lol at that number..think it was done on purpose ?)

 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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I agree that there is a larger issue as far as food choices and planning are concerned. This is one reason why I feel that there should be some sort of adult education class which teaches people how to prepare simple meals, how to shop, and how to look for nutritional value labels on food.

I'm with you on the Dunkin Donuts too. We splurge about once every couple of months and buy a dozen to consume over the weekend, but it isn't something that we would do on a regular basis. Nobody makes a Boston Kreme like Dunkin Donuts.

I like that slogan. It may not be PC, but it gets the point across quite well.

Funny you mention that about the "cooking class" -- my wife and I often wonder why health and finance aren't a bigger part of the middle-school/high-school curriculum. The interesting thing is that my kids got a pretty healthy dose of "health/healthy-living" as part of their PE class this year, so perhaps things are going in the right direction.

In my house (6 people), the dozen donuts last about 15 minutes....lol. My youngest taught me that if I don't eat my two, he will.

That slogan is definitely not PC, but it is incredibly succinct.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Funny you mention that about the "cooking class" -- my wife and I often wonder why health and finance aren't a bigger part of the middle-school/high-school curriculum. The interesting thing is that my kids got a pretty healthy dose of "health/healthy-living" as part of their PE class this year, so perhaps things are going in the right direction.

In my house (6 people), the dozen donuts last about 15 minutes....lol. My youngest taught me that if I don't eat my two, he will.

That slogan is definitely not PC, but it is incredibly succinct.
They got rid of Home Ec where you learned that stuff.
They incorporated nutrition into health classes and PE classes where you learn about calories and daily intake.


Cooking, sewing, budgeting has been removed from the curriculum.
And it wasn't an elective either..everyone had to take that class.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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The story illustrates well why food stamps and government funded health care should be eliminated.
No more need be said.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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They got rid of Home Ec where you learned that stuff.
They incorporated nutrition into health classes and PE classes where you learn about calories and daily intake.


Cooking, sewing, budgeting has been removed from the curriculum.
And it wasn't an elective either..everyone had to take that class.
My local high school has a budgeting elective class. Cooking/sewing were cut before I left school, a long, long time ago.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 05:59 PM
 
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The USDA can easily fix that by disallowing junk food just like they disallow alcohol and tobacco.
Don't let the chips ring up, don't let the 12 pack of soda ring up just like the dog food doesn't ring up.
Let the real food ring up and let them spend their own money on the junk.
I completely agree. If SNAP was done more like WIC, that would cut down on the fraud too. Hard to trade PB, produce and milk coupons for drugs, alcohol, etc. Ideally, I would love to see actual food given out because then that would guarantee that there was food available for the kids. But I know that will probably never happen.

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Originally Posted by JimRom View Post
I agree that there is a larger issue as far as food choices and planning are concerned. This is one reason why I feel that there should be some sort of adult education class which teaches people how to prepare simple meals, how to shop, and how to look for nutritional value labels on food.

I'm with you on the Dunkin Donuts too. We splurge about once every couple of months and buy a dozen to consume over the weekend, but it isn't something that we would do on a regular basis. Nobody makes a Boston Kreme like Dunkin Donuts.

I like that slogan. It may not be PC, but it gets the point across quite well.
I organized a fundraiser last year for a charity in my city that teaches people how to make quick, healthy meals. They have a list of healthy staples that they ask people to donate, and then they supplement that with a garden the charity grows.
It's not hard to teach people basic cooking skills. But the people have to be willing to learn and use the skills. I put some sort of meat and fresh veggies in our crock pot at least once a week. Even a single mom working full time could do that. And you come home to a healthy prepared dinner.

But I have volunteered in Appalachia too, and I completely understand what you are saying. I cringe to seeing the babies walking around with Mountain Dew in a baby bottle. The crazy thing is the area is so cheap, a couple working at Walmart could afford a little house, etc. But that would require some long term thinking- waiting to have kids, etc., that so many poor people in that area don't seem to be able to do in the numbing poverty.
My MIL lives in rural TN, and has made $10-$11 an hour most of her life. She was able to buy a cute little 3/2 house with her salary.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 07:21 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Time to take away all the "temporary benefits" that are no longer needed.
No one is dying of starvation in the streets.
We have an obesity problem with the poor, not a starvation problem.
^^ This. Not one family using an EBT card looks anything but fat. And I see no one in America looking like a famine victim from Africa. And until they do, why are we so worried about the availability of SNAP benefits?

These sort of government safety nets should only be for people in real crisis, not helping slackers keep slacking.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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Instead of giving them EBT cards, let social workers drop off portioned and healthy food once a week.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by ntwrkguy1 View Post
Funny you mention that about the "cooking class" -- my wife and I often wonder why health and finance aren't a bigger part of the middle-school/high-school curriculum. The interesting thing is that my kids got a pretty healthy dose of "health/healthy-living" as part of their PE class this year, so perhaps things are going in the right direction.

In my house (6 people), the dozen donuts last about 15 minutes....lol. My youngest taught me that if I don't eat my two, he will.

That slogan is definitely not PC, but it is incredibly succinct.
You and your wife should go take a look at the curriculum at most high schools. They generally include some type of personal finance.

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They got rid of Home Ec where you learned that stuff.
They incorporated nutrition into health classes and PE classes where you learn about calories and daily intake.


Cooking, sewing, budgeting has been removed from the curriculum.
And it wasn't an elective either..everyone had to take that class.
Budgeting has been added to the curriculum in many places.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Instead of giving them EBT cards, let social workers drop off portioned and healthy food once a week.
And that would be real cost effective, not.
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