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Old 02-01-2014, 07:19 AM
 
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the same people who whine and cry about ACA being a burden on their grandchildren don't seem to care that corporations are going to make the land unlivable for their grandchildren. I was going to start a thread about this 2 days ago. why isn't this bigger news? why isn't everybody talking about this? these factories provide jobs for the working poor in WV to feed their families, but their won't be any families to feed if we destroy our planet.
What? I didn't know there was a tinfoil shortage.
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Old 02-01-2014, 09:19 AM
 
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That chemical tank sitting next to the river was because of EPA regulations.

That spill wouldn't have happened if that regulation wasn't in place because that tank of chemicals wouldn't have been there.

Think about that one !
Please don't ask them to think .... it's really too much .... that's why they love government so much ... government's motto ... don't worry ... we'll do the thinking ... you just do the paying.

Meanwhile, Californication is about ready to start glowing in the dark, as radiation from Japan is flooding the west coast . Don't worry though ... the EPA is on the job .... their solution? Turn off radiation detectors, raise the safe limits of radiation exposure 1000 times higher than before, and encourage clear channel radio stations to play Bob Marley's "Don't Worry, Be Happy" at least twice a day.
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Old 02-01-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: texas
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That chemical tank sitting next to the river was because of EPA regulations.

That spill wouldn't have happened if that regulation wasn't in place because that tank of chemicals wouldn't have been there.

Think about that one !
I will accept your contention that EPA requirments forced the tank to be close to the river...did EPA regulations also force the company not to inspect the tank, maintain the tank, repair the tank and housing, or replace the tank or housing if in a condition showing wear or damage was discovered?
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Old 04-16-2014, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Almost 3 months later and several counties still can't drink the water, congress passed new legislation but what does that matter if there is no enforcement at the state level.
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Old 04-16-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Almost 3 months later and several counties still can't drink the water, congress passed new legislation but what does that matter if there is no enforcement at the state level.
There won't be. The politicians all sit in the laps of Big Coal.
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Old 04-16-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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Almost 3 months later and several counties still can't drink the water, congress passed new legislation but what does that matter if there is no enforcement at the state level.
I was there Saturday.......people were drinking the water.

There have been all sorts of state level regulations at that.......curious though.......how would you legislate the river to dissipate the chemicals?
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Old 04-16-2014, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I was there Saturday.......people were drinking the water.

There have been all sorts of state level regulations at that.......curious though.......how would you legislate the river to dissipate the chemicals?
Too late after the spill, the problem is that states like WV have a history of not enforcing the Clean Water Act. Just saw the news and the people can't get straight answers whether it is safe or not, the local agencies are not prepared for this type of spill.

Drink at your own risk, how do you determine water quality safety for a spill that covers 9 counties.
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:08 PM
 
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Too late after the spill, the problem is that states like WV have a history of not enforcing the Clean Water Act.
The country doesn't enforce it's regulation except where it wants to. Besides the problem was there wasn't regulations concerning the storage tank that failed. Or at least adequate ones. It's like saying Jane Mansfield might not have died if airbags had been mandated earlier.

Sometimes things that arguably shouldn't falls through the cracks.

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Just saw the news and the people can't get straight answers whether it is safe or not, the local agencies are not prepared for this type of spill.

Drink at your own risk, how do you determine water quality safety for a spill that covers 9 counties.
We weren't prepared for 9-11. Sometimes things happen that you realize should have been caught after the fact. Yes, someone should have realized the potential problem. It happens everyday.
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:16 PM
 
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That spill wouldn't have happened if there had been less regulations. I mean come on! If we'd reduce the tax rates on those companies and lowered their expenses they might have had the money to spend on protecting people more, and had a higher rate of employment! Win-win!


Somewhere....a conservative libertarian is believing the prior paragraph.....
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:30 PM
 
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i hope they get what they deserve. They dont want regulations, could give a crap less if others get sick as long as they get money for their truck and dem nice things then they can just suffer.

i just read a report in louisiana how people are getting sick because a refinery expanded to their house. Nobody cares. If you are going to support this industry and hurt people indirectly, then i dont feel sympathy for anyone in any community that does that.
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