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I think Macklemore's movement is one of the defining moments in hip hop history. What he and Ryan Lewis have managed to do is unprecedented in hip hop...it's in your face, it's insurgent, it's something I.haven't seen in hip hop in two decades at least.
Man, when they flew "The Heist" flag on the Space Needle in their hometown in that video, man you can't help but to be impressed with what they've accomplished.
I think he's the very definition of hip hop. I'm not into their music...not my style, but I'm digging what they're doing.
If you believe that Macklemore's music is hiphop music, then you obviously know nothing about hiphop music. Just because he's talking fast (rapping) does not make him a hip hop artist. JayZ, Nas. Kanye, Drake, Eminem, Notorious B.I.G., Tupac, Q-Tip, Jadakiss, Guru, Busta Rhymes, Wu Tang, Run DMC, Prodigy, Snoop Dog, Lauryn Hill, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, KRS One, LL Cool J, Kanye West, Outcast, Slick Rick, Common, Rakim, the Roots, etc are examples HipHop artist.
What some of you are trying to do is to redefine hip hop into being something it's not and what Macklemore's doing because you do not like the real "other version" of hiphop. Macklemore may have elements of rapping and pop in his commercial music because he was influenced by hiphop, but it's not hiphop or respected as such in the hiphop culture.
If you believe that Macklemore's music is hiphop music, then you obviously know nothing about hiphop music. Just because he's talking fast (rapping) does not make him a hip hop artist. JayZ, Nas. Kanye, Drake, Eminem, Notorious B.I.G., Tupac, Q-Tip, Jadakiss, Guru, Busta Rhymes, Wu Tang, Run DMC, Prodigy, Snoop Dog, Lauryn Hill, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, KRS One, LL Cool J, Kanye West, Outcast, Slick Rick, Common, Rakim, the Roots, etc are examples HipHop artist.
What some of you are trying to do is to redefine hip hop into being something it's not and what Macklemore's doing because you do not like the real "other version" of hiphop. Macklemore may have elements of rapping and pop in his commercial music because he was influenced by hiphop, but it's not hiphop or respected as such in the hiphop culture.
Like every other form of music, it evolved from what the "inventors" had exposure to. Obviously, there were strong African roots, but that was also mixed with spirituals, work songs, popular southern music of the day as well as European influences. The best answer is, nobody can be sure, but music usually doesn't spontaneously appear without some assistance.
The music of today has it's roots in the music from yesterday, which had it's roots in the music from the day before...
Because it's not. It's pure commercial pop music mixed with elements of rapping. Listen to the aforementioned artist's music to see the difference. If you want to characterize it as commercial hiphop, then so be it, but in the hiphop community, in the clubs, during hiphop segments of radio, in mixtapes, on hiphop forums, and in the streets, he's unknown and isn't being listened too.
The exact origin of Blues is not known, but it is known that it came from African American and African culture. They were singing the "blues"
That was definitely a big part of it. If that was the only origin though, the blues likely would not have evolved into the 12 bar blues that signifies the peak of the blues genre.
Because it's not. It's pure commercial pop music mixed with elements of rapping. Listen to the aforementioned artist's music to see the difference. If you want to characterize it as commercial hiphop, then so be it, but in the hiphop community, in the clubs, during hiphop segments of radio, in mixtapes, on hiphop forums, and in the streets, he's unknown and isn't being listened too.
Oh yes poppy with rapping totally doesn't describe Drake right?
Hip hop will inevitably change and take different forms, not all of these forms will be good but it's a good thing this happens, keeps things fresher, adds more influences, greater diversity, etc.
That was definitely a big part of it. If that was the only origin though, the blues likely would not have evolved into the 12 bar blues that signifies the peak of the blues genre.
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