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Old 01-14-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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Google billionaire farmers, that should be a good start for you.
Farm subsidies don't help food prices that everyone benefits from? Since when?
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Farm subsidies don't help food prices that everyone benefits from? Since when?
I don't think billionaires need subsidies, but it seems like you have justified to yourself giving the rich subsidies.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:08 PM
 
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I don't think billionaires need subsidies, but it seems like you have justified to yourself giving the rich subsidies.
Certain industries get subsidies. Billionaires do not. You still haven't mentioned a time where the wealthy get subsidies.

Let me ask again, do you think that the poor and middle class don't benefit from farm subsidies?
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Certain industries get subsidies. Billionaires do not. You still haven't mentioned a time where the wealthy get subsidies.

Let me ask again, do you think that the poor and middle class don't benefit from farm subsidies?
No I do not, I do think those billionaires do enjoy making more money thanks to those subsidies.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No I do not, I do think those billionaires do enjoy making more money thanks to those subsidies.
Well they certainly didn't get those billions from farm subsidies.

So if we do the math…

$11 million /17 years = $647,000
$647,000 /50 people = $13,000 per year per billionaire (average).

Not everyone got that much though.
The subsidies are for crops..they don't pocket that money
It cost more to plant and harvest than what it is sold for and the government subsidies that part.
If they didn't your food would be very expensive.
The government pays them the difference to break even.

A gallon of milk would cost near $8 if it weren't for milk subsidies.

They got $13,000 per year and you're b*tching and whining about it ?


Meet Your Taxpayer-Subsidized Farm Bill Billionaires!
"at least 50 billionaires or farm businesses in which they had a financial interest benefited from $11.3 million in traditional farm subsidies between 1995 and 2012."
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Well they certainly didn't get those billions from farm subsidies.

So if we do the math…

$11 million /17 years = $647,000
$647,000 /50 people = $13,000 per year per billionaire (average).

Not everyone got that much though.
The subsidies are for crops..they don't pocket that money
It cost more to plant and harvest than what it is sold for and the government subsidies that part.
If they didn't your food would be very expensive.
The government pays them the difference to break even.

A gallon of milk would cost near $8 if it weren't for milk subsidies.

They got $13,000 per year and you're b*tching and whining about it ?


Meet Your Taxpayer-Subsidized Farm Bill Billionaires!
"at least 50 billionaires or farm businesses in which they had a financial interest benefited from $11.3 million in traditional farm subsidies between 1995 and 2012."
Whatever helps you to give the wealthy subsidies.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Whatever helps you to give the wealthy subsidies.
I don't get a say in this and neither do you.
Why didn't you defend your original post about billionaires profiting from farm subsidies ?
Maybe because they aren't ?
Each and every "farm" applies and gets approved BY THE GOVERNMENT.

If you don't like that the government is handing out money then go voice your outrage to your Congress person.

At least we're seeing an ROI on that money via lower food costs.
Money spent on welfare programs (over $1 trillion a year) is money flushed down the toilet.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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No I do not, I do think those billionaires do enjoy making more money thanks to those subsidies.
You need to research how farm subsidies work a little more. Or is this just more class envy where you try to attack billionaires, even though this is something you personally benefit from every time you eat a meal?

Name a single billionaire who receives subsidies above and beyond anyone else.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You need to research how farm subsidies work a little more. Or is this just more class envy where you try to attack billionaires, even though this is something you personally benefit from every time you eat a meal?

Name a single billionaire who receives subsidies above and beyond anyone else.
Poster is spewing left talking points from headlines.
No substance and can't even defend their posts.

I'll name one billionaire..Paul Allen (Microsoft)
He got average of $14000/year for 10 years to subsidy his barley farm.

http://farm.ewg.org/persondetail.php...mber=A09416495
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Poster is spewing left talking points from headlines.
No substance and can't even defend their posts.

I'll name one billionaire..Paul Allen (Microsoft)
He got average of $14000/year for 10 years to subsidy his barley farm.

EWG Farm Subsidy Database
And why does a billionaire need a subsidy? Paul Allen owns super yachts, I am sure he could have covered the spread with his barley farm easily.
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