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Old 01-16-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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The Trans-Pacific Partnership, which would grant enormous new powers to corporations, is a massive assault on democracy.

The TPP has been cleverly misbranded as a trade agreement (yawn) by its corporate boosters. As a result, since George W. Bush initiated negotiations in 2008, it has cruised along under the radar. The Obama administration initially paused the talks, ostensibly to develop a new approach compatible with candidate

Obama’s pledges to replace the old NAFTA-based trade model. But by late 2009, talks restarted just where Bush had left off. Think of the TPP as a stealthy delivery mechanism for policies that could not survive public scrutiny. Indeed, only two of the twenty-six chapters of this corporate Trojan horse cover traditional trade matters.

The rest embody the most florid dreams of the 1 percent—grandiose new rights and privileges for corporations and permanent constraints on government regulation. They include new investor safeguards to ease job offshoring and assert control over natural resources, and severely limit the regulation of financial services, land use, food safety, natural resources, energy, tobacco, healthcare and more.

NAFTA on Steroids | The Nation

Contact you repesentatives and tell them "NO WAY!"
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Contact you repesentatives and tell them "NO WAY!"
I know absolutely nothing about the Trans-Pacific Partnership. However, I do know that if you oppose it, then it must be good for the US. I will support it on that basis alone.
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:44 PM
 
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i know absolutely nothing about the trans-pacific partnership. However, i do know that if you oppose it, then it must be good for the us. I will support it on that basis alone.

lol!!!
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Old 01-16-2014, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I know absolutely nothing about the Trans-Pacific Partnership. However, I do know that if you oppose it, then it must be good for the US. I will support it on that basis alone.
Guess by that logic you must be a huge fan of NAFTA.
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Old 01-16-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Contact you repesentatives and tell them "NO WAY!"
So you prefer that Americans permanently lose 10 Million jobs instead of 5 Million?

That's smart.

I hope you can pay for their life-style.

Trading comparatively....

Mircea
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Old 01-16-2014, 04:27 PM
 
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I know absolutely nothing about the Trans-Pacific Partnership. However, I do know that if you oppose it, then it must be good for the US. I will support it on that basis alone.
Well said to the anti- capitalist poster.
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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So you prefer that Americans permanently lose 10 Million jobs instead of 5 Million?

That's smart.

I hope you can pay for their life-style.

Trading comparatively....

Mircea
Perhaps you could offer further details?
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:20 PM
 
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So you prefer that Americans permanently lose 10 Million jobs instead of 5 Million?

That's smart.

I hope you can pay for their life-style.

Trading comparatively....

Mircea
Clinton said this would be good for us too. I find it challenging to believe this has really been a good idea.
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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I know absolutely nothing about the Trans-Pacific Partnership. However, I do know that if you oppose it, then it must be good for the US. I will support it on that basis alone.
I also disagree with sick of ny on most issues. However, the TPP is really bad. None of us want this to go through.


TPP & One World Government - YouTube
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:50 PM
 
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More information with direct links to leaked drafts. In these threads. They have been in a big hurry fast tracking this.
TPP Provision to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Those Who "Aid and Abet" Copyright Infringement
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Kei's Breakdown of the latest wikileaks release of this agreement.
KEI analysis of Wikileaks leak of TPP IPR text, from August 30, 2013 | Knowledge Ecology International
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The text reveals that the most anti-consumer and anti-freedom country in the negotiations is the United States, taking the most extreme and hard-line positions on most issues. But the text also reveals that several other countries in the negotiation are willing to compromise the public’s rights, in a quest for a new trade deal with the United States.
The United States and other countries have defended the secrecy of the negotiations in part on the grounds that the government negotiators receive all the advice they need from 700 corporate advisors cleared to see the text. The U.S. negotiators claim that the proposals need not be subject to public scrutiny because they are merely promoting U.S. legal traditions. Other governments claim that they will resist corporate right holder lobbying pressures. But the version released by Wikileaks reminds us why government officials supervised only by well-connected corporate advisors can’t be trusted.
An enduring mystery is the appalling acceptance of the secrecy by the working news media.


Leaders seek to finish TPP deal this year

Remember *the* head of the NSA said IP is the future of this country.
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