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Old 01-17-2014, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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29 hours a week? That is a lot of free time, yet the working poor always seem to be working and typically have multiple jobs.
Wage Gauge: Sea-Tac low-wage workers hold multiple jobs?and still struggle - Puget Sound Business Journal

This is an article about a woman who works 7 days a week with two jobs. I think your assumption of minimum wage workers only working one part time job is false.
Then she's working over FPL and doesn't get government programs.
So why are you using her as an example ?

Is the point to get these people OFF government programs ?
Don't use examples of people that are not on government programs to begin with.

The woman in your link is 63 years old with no skills.
She scans luggage tags and is a "jane rent-a-cop".
63 years old and she never developed any skills to raise above min wage ?
That's going back to the 70's when she entered the job market.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Then she's working over FPL and doesn't get government programs.
So why are you using her as an example ?

Is the point to get these people OFF government programs ?
Don't use examples of people that are not on government programs to begin with.
Guess we are having two different conversations. If she was getting paid above FPL, she would only need one 40 hr a week job, of two part time jobs equal to 40 hrs a week.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Guess we are having two different conversations. If she was getting paid above FPL, she would only need one 40 hr a week job, of two part time jobs equal to 40 hrs a week.
The thread is about wages, not hours worked.
There's no law being put forward here to mandate 40 hours is there ?

Now you're fixated on hours worked ?
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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Then you should oppose the minimum wage. If working people lose their jobs due to being priced out of the market, they become eligible for welfare.

Teens will be priced out of the market. Teens don't sign up for welfare, adults do,
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The thread is about wages, not hours worked.
There's no law being put forward here to mandate 40 hours is there ?

Now you're fixated on hours worked ?
Wages and hours worked tend to go hand in hand.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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Then she's working over FPL and doesn't get government programs.
So why are you using her as an example ?

Is the point to get these people OFF government programs ?
Don't use examples of people that are not on government programs to begin with.

The woman in your link is 63 years old with no skills.
She scans luggage tags and is a "jane rent-a-cop".
63 years old and she never developed any skills to raise above min wage ?
That's going back to the 70's when she entered the job market.

Lots of minimum wage jobs don't provide any on the job skills, that's why they're called unskilled.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Teens will be priced out of the market. Teens don't sign up for welfare, adults do,
1% earn min wage or below (waiters and waitresses).
That's 3.9 million.
Over 1/2 of them are under 25.
The above from the BLS.

So that's about 2 million people this "War on Wages" is being fought for.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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1% earn min wage or below (waiters and waitresses).
That's 3.9 million.
Over 1/2 of them are under 25.
The above from the BLS.

So that's about 2 million people this "War on Wages" is being fought for.
That is federal minimum wage. Also servers should be making minimum wage, not less. The states that get away with paying less are just abusing a loophole.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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Good for Washington, I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon was right behind them on this. Just one of the many reasons why I love the northwest so much.

The legislature won't do it and a voter initiative is very unlikely. Voters indexed MW to CPI in 2002 and the proposal just barely passed.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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1% earn min wage or below (waiters and waitresses).
That's 3.9 million.
Over 1/2 of them are under 25.
The above from the BLS.

So that's about 2 million people this "War on Wages" is being fought for.

"Over half" = 51.5 percent. Probably lower now. Probably a few million more earning higher state minimum wages.
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