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Old 01-20-2014, 05:13 AM
 
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My first job was delivering newspapers for my brothers and they paid me 50 cents a day to deliver 110 newspapers. Which was a difficult job during the winter in Ohio. Then I shoveled snow for 1-2 dollars a drive way. I enjoyed the snow shoveling job more since it was more profitable. After that I went big time and got a job as a busboy making 1 dollar per hour plus 3-4 dollars in tips after 5 hours. I quit that job and moved up to a Hilton Hotel busboy and made 2 dollars an hour plus 20 dollars a night in tips. This was during the early 1970's which seems like yesterday to me.
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Minimum wage can't even support 2 people in many areas, but don't let that stop in the poor people bashing
Fear of failure, imagined wrongs and the belief they are entitled to wages without having sufficient skills is what keeps people in minimum wage jobs. It really is that simple. If minimum wage gets a 25% increase then I should get the same increase to compensate.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I have been thinking about this now and then since it first appeared, and I have come to the conclusion that I have NEVER worked for a government-mandated "minimum wage".
My first "real job" after high school was the United States Navy. IIRC, I made less than $50 per month, plus 3 hots and a cot!
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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This forum is not an accurate representation of the US population.
If you're talking about political zeal, then I'd agree with you. I'm not sure I do when it comes to life experience, though. We all were born and got older, and experienced a lot of stuff along the way. How you measure on the political extremist scale doesn't negate those experiences.

In other words, I think it's a reasonable enough sampling for this unscientific discussion. The fact remains that after 10 pages, not a single person has claimed to have tried to raise a family on it.

If this was anything other than politicking by Obama and the Democrats in the lead up to a midterm election that they expect to go very, very badly for them, it would have been a national issue for the past several years. It hasn't been. Can you not see when you're being maneuvered like a pawn on a chess board?
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:23 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Never, I don't see how anyone could live on that.
See, now that's exactly the point. A minimum wage job isn't supposed to be living wage.

This is what happens when that lack of shovel ready jobs and over regulation of the private sector creates a shortage of jobs. Low wage jobs which should be filled by HS and college students, are being filled as a second job, or as full time jobs for the never to climb the ladder uneducated and undocumented laborers.

There's that shared suffering thing rearing its ugly head.
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:46 AM
 
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Sure, in theory minimum wage and similar jobs should be for high school kids and for semi retired folks who want to supplement their social security, but that is just not the case anymore. Employers prefer immigrants in these jobs and want people who will stick around a long time with few other choices.
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