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Old 01-20-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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Really hard to say unless you only watch cnn
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Let's see…

The US backed the "rebels" in Iraq.
The US backed the "rebels" in Libya.
The US is backing the "rebels" in Syria.

And just who are these "rebels" and why are they being transported from country to country by the US ?
Why are we arming them ?

Waging war by proxy eh ? I guess we don't need Congress or our military to wage war anymore.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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There are different factions of rebels. They fight (and kill) amongst themselves and also fight the gov't. The homegrown rebels don't like the religious 'Allahu Akbar' nutbar interlopers coming in from other countries and funded by the Saudis. But the Saudi backed nutters are becoming more dominant and are better funded and equipped. It's also become Sunni (Saudis/Jihadists) vs Shiites (Syrian gov't with Iran & Hezbollah allies)
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Map of Situation in Syria



LiveLeak.com - Map of Situation in Syria
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Really hard to say unless you only watch cnn
They are both bad, which is why Democrats support them. While Rep. Pelosi visits Assad in Syria to give him material aid and comfort, President Obama is arming and financing al Qaeda in Syria. Both are enemies of the US, which is why Democrats are so confused as to whom to support. In the end the Democrats will support whomever is capable of killing the most Americans and doing the most damage to American interests.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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In the words of Tony the Tiger, they'rrrrreeee grrrrrrrreat!!!! They are busy culling each other's herds. And, with any luck, they will do very well with the task at hand. The best part is that we, the 3rd wheel known as the US, is NOT (at least for now) deploying troops to fight the two bullies currently locking horns.

Cruel? Maybe. But, outside of WWII and Gulf Storm, we simply haven't prosecuted the wars in earnest. Think about it. If we actually had the chimichangas to use the B-52's, B-One's and other missile carrying vessels, we could vaporize the issues in months.

However, due to our eternally waivering moral compass, we don't to be criticized for being too "aggressive"? The result, 5,000 or so of our guys die and all the gains are given back in months.

Which makes more sense? Kill a couple hundred thousand in a few months and END the f'in conflict or, draaaaaaaaaaaag it out, spend billions and trillions and get nowhere? Chuck Horner was right. You have a moral obligation to end it as quickly as possible. It saves lives believe it or not. It did in Gulf 1 and it can work in other places.

Instead, we'll start with a toe in the water and if it goes bad, he'll blame Bush....if it goes well, Chris Matthews will dress out in drag and kiss the left forever more....you just can't win as is there is NO accountability.

For now, let's stay out of it. We did a very good job of that as the Iraqi's fought the Iranians for nearly 10 years in the 80's......don't know why we can't remember that....
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Princeton
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As long as Al Qaeda dies, I don't care, six of one, half dozen of the others..
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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In the words of Tony the Tiger, they'rrrrreeee grrrrrrrreat!!!! They are busy culling each other's herds. And, with any luck, they will do very well with the task at hand. The best part is that we, the 3rd wheel known as the US, is NOT (at least for now) deploying troops to fight the two bullies currently locking horns.

Cruel? Maybe. But, outside of WWII and Gulf Storm, we simply haven't prosecuted the wars in earnest. Think about it. If we actually had the chimichangas to use the B-52's, B-One's and other missile carrying vessels, we could vaporize the issues in months.

However, due to our eternally waivering moral compass, we don't to be criticized for being too "aggressive"? The result, 5,000 or so of our guys die and all the gains are given back in months.

Which makes more sense? Kill a couple hundred thousand in a few months and END the f'in conflict or, draaaaaaaaaaaag it out, spend billions and trillions and get nowhere? Chuck Horner was right. You have a moral obligation to end it as quickly as possible. It saves lives believe it or not. It did in Gulf 1 and it can work in other places.

Instead, we'll start with a toe in the water and if it goes bad, he'll blame Bush....if it goes well, Chris Matthews will dress out in drag and kiss the left forever more....you just can't win as is there is NO accountability.

For now, let's stay out of it. We did a very good job of that as the Iraqi's fought the Iranians for nearly 10 years in the 80's......don't know why we can't remember that....
I am all for allowing Assad and the Rebels fight it out, and I really do not care who wins. However, we should not be supporting both sides like we are now. As a direct result of Obama's arming and funding of al Qaeda in Syria, they have managed to reoccupy the town of Fallujah in Iraq. Pelosi's pandering to Assad only gives him more resolve to continue fighting, knowing that he has the support of the US.

We should not be involved either way in Syria. At least not until the power struggle has been resolved. Then when they have completely decimated each other, and only then, should the US go in and wipe out the victor.

With regard to the Iran/Iraq war during the 1980s, Reagan supplied both Iran and Iraq with military intelligence on the movement of each others troops. We did not supply arms or financing to either side. Reagan was able to ensure that neither side gained a significant victory over the other. As a result, after 8 years of conflict the Iran/Iraq war came to an end that was a stalemate. Neither side gained an inch of their others territory.

The situation in Syria is considerably different than the Iran/Iraq war. A stalemate is not an option in Syria. One side or the other will win eventually. Which ever side wins will still be our enemy.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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None of our business
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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I like Assad better than the Saudi backed radical Islamic rebels. I was happy and surprised when we didn't go to war to support the rebels a few months back.
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