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No it doesn't. The unfortunate thing is that it has brought all the racists out denying there are racists. Let's face it there are many who still don't like black people and having a black president sends them over the edge.
It's not the color of his skin.. you may think Obama is lesser by keep pointing at his skin, but it is his policies and his ideology , his lies and his words that are what are offensive. You are the racist for pointing at his skin . YOu are very aware of his skin.. anyone who keeps referring to his skin is the one who is more offended by it.
In today's climate, yes. 90% of what you perceive to be racist is simple preference. It's one thing to teach history, but, since you didn't seem to understand it the first time I said it, let me say it again: Stop acting like slavery and sitting at the back of the bus happened yesterday.
Look forward instead of constantly dwelling on the past. Or is that hopey/changey crap not working for you?
But racial inequality exists in the present, not just in the past!
Look, there are really only 2 possible answers to the question of why such deep racial inequality exists in America:
1) Racial inequality is the result of entrenched, systemic processes that produce unequal results--i.e. institutional racism.
2) Racial inequality is the result of the fact some races are superior to others.
Notice that when a racist remark is made many conservatives tend to defend and justify the remark, usually be deflecting (" so and so made a racist remark), as if that makes it ok.
The rare times they condemn a racist remark is when it's made by a liberal, otherwise they tend to justify it.
How about providing an example instead of making blanket unsubstantiated claims.
Many of the claims of "racism" are not racism at all. The claim has become a tool of the Left to discredit or otherwise impugn someone (usually conservatives), much like you are doing here.
To conservatives, there is no such thing as racism. To conservatives, there is only "reverse racism."
If a racist remark targets black or brown people, then it wasn't a racist remark at all. Furthermore, anyone who claims it is just "playing the race card" and a racist themselves. But if the racist remark is aimed at white people, then it is reverse racism.
Pretty simple.
I'm not a conservative and I hate Republicans with a passion and I disagree.
Yes there are some remarks made against people that are actually racist, BUT there are many more remarks/statements that are made that ARE NOT RACIST, but are stilll labelled as such anyways. Why? Because its the absolute most simplest way to shutdown any real discussion of an issue, especially when the facts are against you.
For example let's take a look at a common discussion like black crime. Usually people who defend blacks will do one of two things:
1) bring up the past to explain the present even when it has absolutely no relevance.
2) cry racism no matter if it actually applies to the discussion or not.
Basically black apologists are thinking 'Well the facts are against us, the statistics are against us and news stories are against us. We got nothing except the race card so let's use that.' So they take the easy and lazy way out and simply say 'that's racist' and so alot of times that effectively ends any construction discussion because how can you argue against that?
You present facts and statistics to support your argument and their response isn't to present their own facts and statistics to disprove you, because frequently they don't have any and so 'you're a racist' is their only recourse. The point is how about trying to discuss something without immediately bringing out the race card and just stick to the facts and figures?
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Originally Posted by RogersParkGuy
If the whites opposed to illegal immigration paid equal attention to illegal immigrants from all countries, then I might believe they were interested in upholding the rule of law. But that isn't the case. Virtually 100% of the rhetoric, imagery and overall focus of the anti-illegal immigrant crowd is aimed at Mexicans. That tells me it is really about race, and all this talk about upholding the law just a smokescreen.
But isn't the majority of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico? If so, then why wouldn't you concentrate on them as they're the biggest issue right now.
No it doesn't. The unfortunate thing is that it has brought all the racists out denying there are racists. Let's face it there are many who still don't like black people and having a black president sends them over the edge.
Interesting that you make such a statement. Yet, to hear Leftists tell it, there are no Democrats left who are racist. Only Republicans are racist.
"call them racist" is actually a racist tactic in itself. It divides and inflames. Those who are falsely accused are inflamed, and those who misguidedly buy into the false accusations are inflamed as well. And those who have genuine complaints of discrimination now find it difficult to get justice due to a boy cries wolf effect. The overall result: more racial division. Why is the left so accepting of that?
Speaking of "inflaming." that is the pupose of this thread. From what I understand (now ... didn't before) that is called "trolling" and is supposed to be against the TOS.
Oh geez, not this lame argument again. Mexicans are here overwhelmingly in the largest numbers illegally and most of the rest are from Latino countries. That is the only reason that the focus is on them. That doesn't mean that those of us who oppose illegal immigration are ok with the rest of them but what else would your side do if you couldn't claim that our objections are race based? Illegal immigration no matter where it is from is bad for our country and it is against the law why does your side not concentrate on that fact rather than pulling the race card instead?
Tell me what group are the most vocal in their demands for amnesty also? I rest my case.
Not everyone that comes from mexico are mexican there are many actually that come from Ecuador,El Salvador, Dominican Republic, if anything mexico is more a gateway into this country. Not to mention a majority of the "illegal" immigrants that are here would be chinese. The last company I worked with worked in a construction site where I got to talking with a foreman for a fire sprinkler installation company. He told me that it's not uncommon for many chinese companies to actually import chinese workers put them on a contract and than once the contract is done to either stay in the U.S. or go back home to china. The fact that he told me his workers get paid once every month says that they are not here legally otherwise they would be fined into infinity. But yet all I ever hear on this board EVER about illegals is SEND THEM BACK TO MEXICO!. You don't hear many on here saying SEND THEM BACK FUJIN PROVINCE ! Or you never hear SEND THEM ALL BACK TO LIBERIA !!
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Originally Posted by Dale Cooper
Every time some fool calls me a racist, I become a little more racist.
I despised 0bama's policies from the beginning, but couldn't have cared less that he was black. After all, he was clean and articulate, lol. But then the racist crap began and the more I listened, the more disgusting it became.
Be very careful what you call someone. You just might give that person a reason to become what you're accusing them of being. The strides toward equality have been slapped down by accusation and entitlement. An extremely divisive president has made minorities, blacks in particular, think it's OK to be racist themselves, and in doing so, they're harming themselves and their proclaimed causes. They have nobody to blame but themselves.
If you want to be treated equally, act equal. Stop slobbering and pouting about inequities that never happened to you and nobody alive today inflicted upon you. Stop acting like slavery and sitting at the back of the bus happened yesterday.
So you become more racist because someone calls you one ???? In what universe does that make sense, did you ever try figuring out why someone calls you racist ? You think it might have anything to do with what you say or how offensive it is ?
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Originally Posted by Dale Cooper
In today's climate, yes. 90% of what you perceive to be racist is simple preference. It's one thing to teach history, but, since you didn't seem to understand it the first time I said it, let me say it again: Stop acting like slavery and sitting at the back of the bus happened yesterday.
Look forward instead of constantly dwelling on the past. Or is that hopey/changey crap not working for you? Put another way, if it's not working the way you wish, maybe it's you.
It's difficult to move forward when you have so many backwards thinking people in this country, when we've tried to come forward in this nation we have so many still living in the past. We still have people in this country trying to push for segregation still, now how can one move forward?
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