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Old 01-25-2014, 05:42 AM
 
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If you thought the polar vortex was bad, get a load of a new climate phenomenon that just might be coming our way.
Scientists say we could be headed for another "Little Ice Age," given how eerily calm the sun has been in recent years.
First, a bit of background. The sun goes through cycles that last roughly 11 years, marked by the ebb and flow of sunspots on its surface. At peak sunspot activity, the so-called solar maximum, the sun sports lots of sunspots and is steadily unleashing solar flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs). Since our current solar cycle, Number 24, kicked off in 2008, the number of sunspots observed has been half of what heliophysicists expected.


Solar Lull Could Trigger Another 'Little Ice Age,' Sun Scientists Say



if true, this should put off all those global warming fanatics.
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Old 01-25-2014, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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If you thought the polar vortex was bad, get a load of a new climate phenomenon that just might be coming our way.
Scientists say we could be headed for another "Little Ice Age," given how eerily calm the sun has been in recent years.
First, a bit of background. The sun goes through cycles that last roughly 11 years, marked by the ebb and flow of sunspots on its surface. At peak sunspot activity, the so-called solar maximum, the sun sports lots of sunspots and is steadily unleashing solar flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs). Since our current solar cycle, Number 24, kicked off in 2008, the number of sunspots observed has been half of what heliophysicists expected.


Solar Lull Could Trigger Another 'Little Ice Age,' Sun Scientists Say



if true, this should put off all those global warming fanatics.
It is not true.

One relatively quiet solar cycle is not going to have a long term impact. This is just more fear-mongering hyperbole by NASA. They like to do this sort of thing apparently. For example, in 2006 they were predicting the worst solar cycle since records were kept for almost 400 years.
"Solar cycle 24, due to peak in 2010 or 2011 'looks like its going to be one of the most intense cycles since record-keeping began almost 400 years ago,' says solar physicist David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center." --- Scientists Predict Big Solar Cycle - NASA Science
They just go from one unlikely extreme to another, with no factual information to support any of their wild claims.
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Old 01-25-2014, 05:57 AM
 
Location: texas
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If you thought the polar vortex was bad, get a load of a new climate phenomenon that just might be coming our way.
Scientists say we could be headed for another "Little Ice Age," given how eerily calm the sun has been in recent years.
First, a bit of background. The sun goes through cycles that last roughly 11 years, marked by the ebb and flow of sunspots on its surface. At peak sunspot activity, the so-called solar maximum, the sun sports lots of sunspots and is steadily unleashing solar flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs). Since our current solar cycle, Number 24, kicked off in 2008, the number of sunspots observed has been half of what heliophysicists expected.


Solar Lull Could Trigger Another 'Little Ice Age,' Sun Scientists Say



if true, this should put off all those global warming fanatics.
Are you or are the solar scientists claiming the polar votex and extream cold will continue right through the summer months?
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Old 01-25-2014, 05:58 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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If you thought the polar vortex was bad, get a load of a new climate phenomenon that just might be coming our way.
Scientists say we could be headed for another "Little Ice Age," given how eerily calm the sun has been in recent years.
First, a bit of background. The sun goes through cycles that last roughly 11 years, marked by the ebb and flow of sunspots on its surface. At peak sunspot activity, the so-called solar maximum, the sun sports lots of sunspots and is steadily unleashing solar flares and coronal mass ejections (CMEs). Since our current solar cycle, Number 24, kicked off in 2008, the number of sunspots observed has been half of what heliophysicists expected.

Solar Lull Could Trigger Another 'Little Ice Age,' Sun Scientists Say

if true, this should put off all those global warming fanatics.
Is this not looking at the effects through a straw? Last winter and the previous one we had snow, not anything like in the US but the average temp was a lot warmer so much so I did not fire up either of my fireplaces last year.

As far as AGW goes, I am not convinced either way but we certainly cannot keep up with deforestation and expect the grass and shrubs to supply the oxygen we need to an ever expanding populace.

32 years ago when I came to South Africa, the winters were definitely colder and the summers more tolerable. At my age, the cold should be more prominent than heat yet it is the inverse.
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:00 AM
 
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I am pulling for Global Warming over an Ice Age.
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:04 AM
 
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See, they told us humans were heating the planet and the proof is the centruy long ice age that will occur just before the earth begins to warm up...AGAIN.
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:05 AM
 
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And for more information which puts this in perspective:

BBC News - Is our Sun falling silent?

"Prof Lockwood says that while UV light varies with solar activity, other forms of radiation from the Sun that penetrate the troposphere (the lower layer of air that sits above the Earth) do not change that much.

He explains: "If we take all the science that we know relating to how the Sun emits heat and light and how that heat and light powers our climate system, and we look at the climate system globally, the difference that it makes even going back into Maunder Minimum conditions is very small".


and for more detailed information about solar activity and climate change:

Sun & climate: moving in opposite directions

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Old 01-25-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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See, they told us humans were heating the planet and the proof is the centruy long ice age that will occur just before the earth begins to warm up...AGAIN.
Who is 'they'? The voices in your head?
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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And for more information which puts this in perspective:

BBC News - Is our Sun falling silent?

"Prof Lockwood says that while UV light varies with solar activity, other forms of radiation from the Sun that penetrate the troposphere (the lower layer of air that sits above the Earth) do not change that much.

He explains: "If we take all the science that we know relating to how the Sun emits heat and light and how that heat and light powers our climate system, and we look at the climate system globally, the difference that it makes even going back into Maunder Minimum conditions is very small."
Where do these morons come from?

Solar cycles are 11 years in duration. Which means every 11 years there is a new solar cycle. Some solar cycles are stronger than others. It is also very obvious that we are incapable of predicting how strong or weak future solar cycles will be. So at the very best they can make predictions based upon the current solar cycle, which ends in 2018. The next solar cycle maximum will be in 2023-2024, and they have utterly no clue whether it will be quiet or active.

We have been heading into another 35-year cooling cycle since 2010, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the quiet solar cycle.
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:23 AM
 
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We had a mini ice age before, it was refered to as the year without summer caused by a volcano...talk about greenhouse gases.
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