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Old 01-29-2014, 07:58 AM
 
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This has nothing to do with Obamacare. Around here the various hospitals (and there are many) advertise on billboards their current wait time. It's most always under 1 hour. Sometimes 5-10 minutes.

There's also a plethora of urgent care clinics, which are more appropriate for most ailments. Do they not have those in New York City?
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Then you can't say that it should not happen since you don't know the details.

Kinda of rude to insinuate that the staff essentially killed the guy without even seeing an autopsy eh?


Your just mistaken my words, don't do that and you know what I freaking mean.

The poor man goes to a E.R. thinking he is going to get help. And the man dies in the E.R. is that not sad. As I said more details still need to emerge. But the one Hospital worker, felt he was nothing more then a number, and there was a cover up, wonder what gave him this idea.

And I did not insinuate anything, you are. Again this poor man goes to the E.R. seeking help, and he dies, something clearly more was wrong with this man. Ya think" he died.
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:23 PM
 
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And? Better him then me...Life is tough and hard. Sorry the rainbow fairy and fluffy cloud lords weren't there to help him.
Man.......what a peach of a guy you are.
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Because underclass moochers go to the ER for minor stuff, forcing everyone else to wait longer.
I must have stumbled onto some heartless Ayn Rand love-in or something. Jeez. Hope you never get sick and can't find care.
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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Let's be honest. This guy didn't care about his own life. NYC is known to have an excessive amount of congestion in their hospitals. Many are public hospitals... they are a joke.

If he really cared about the health of his family, he could have moved to where this problem doesn't exist. I live in Princeton, NJ that's only a 57 minute commute to NYC. We have two hospitals within a reasonable distance (Princeton University Medical Center and Robert Wood Foundation Hospital) that have practically no wait time. They also treat people without asking any questions so being poor is not an issue (Thanks to NJ's hospital care program).

He chose to live in an area where he didn't have access to hospitals. This isn't anything new (as some ignorant people who might try to blame this on the ACA might claim).
Has it ever occurred to you that not everyone can just move when and where they want?

I'm sorry to hear that we come from the same town.
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:27 PM
 
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Your just mistaken my words, don't do that and you know what I freaking mean.

The poor man goes to a E.R. thinking he is going to get help. And the man dies in the E.R. is that not sad. As I said more details still need to emerge. But the one Hospital worker, felt he was nothing more then a number, and there was a cover up, wonder what gave him this idea.

And I did not insinuate anything, you are. Again this poor man goes to the E.R. seeking help, and he dies, something clearly more was wrong with this man. Ya think" he died.
Well -- it's sad that anyone has to wait at all, but imagine the uproar if they don't see them in order? If they would have called his name ahead of others who had been there much longer, those people would have died or at least become upset.

Emergency means emergency but so many people ignore that --- just like they ignore the 12 item limit in certain lanes at grocery stores. Then they are seen as they arrive. Everyone thinks his or her emergency is just as important as everyone else's.

It would be good to know if there were earlier symptoms. How long did he have the rash before he decided to get it checked out, what were his other reasons for deciding it was an emergency. Lots of rashes are not at all life threatening -- imagine if someone with poison ivy itching gets moved ahead of a stroke or heart attack patient.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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Man.......what a peach of a guy you are.
Nope a pear. And, moreover a realist. This "person" wasn't about to invent the better mouse trap or an improved light bulb. He was a waste of oxygen, which burdened our society and its recourses. If you don't like the truth, too bad; deal with it.

Remember when you call for an ambulance and they are delayed, because they are going to a "drug addict." Remember this when your loved one is convulsing on the floor and the people who will save them, are dealing with someone who CHOSE to stick drugs into their system. And YES, YES this does occur in cities all over this country.

This person was walking waste of oxygen and his death is no more meaningful, then the death of Osama Bin Laden.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It's hard to blame the hospital without more details, especially details on what actually killed him.
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:26 PM
 
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Nope a pear. And, moreover a realist. This "person" wasn't about to invent the better mouse trap or an improved light bulb. He was a waste of oxygen, which burdened our society and its recourses. If you don't like the truth, too bad; deal with it.

Remember when you call for an ambulance and they are delayed, because they are going to a "drug addict." Remember this when your loved one is convulsing on the floor and the people who will save them, are dealing with someone who CHOSE to stick drugs into their system. And YES, YES this does occur in cities all over this country.

This person was walking waste of oxygen and his death is no more meaningful, then the death of Osama Bin Laden.
Inshallah nobody will ever say this about you.

And you are a police officer? What a sad reflection on whatever force employs you.
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Old 01-30-2014, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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And? Better him then me...Life is tough and hard. Sorry the rainbow fairy and fluffy cloud lords weren't there to help him.
Spoken by someone who sounds like they have never been in an emergency room.

That's like watching some dude getting raped/burned alive/tortured and saying "And? Better him then me...Life is tough and hard. Sorry the rainbow fairy and fluffy cloud lords weren't there to help him."

Empathy. That's a word.

I read that story the other day. It's sad. Then again, I don't know what their workload/staff was like. Phil does have a point, in a way. You can't save everyone. But, you would think something could have been done ebfore he died.
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