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What I find amusing is when you crack on people for using You Tube, and yet you're using Wikipedia LOL! Secondly....oh goody let's pump someone full of toxic crap for so-called cannabis withdrawl! No thanks! If I really wanted to take pills, I'd get jacked up on Xanax, or some crappy opiate!
It's laughable that you consider "domestic tranquility" to be threatened by marijuana...Do you not understand?...Do you fail to listen?..
Do you really think that prescription drugs and alcohol aren't to blame for domestic violence?
The only thing accomplished by jailing a working man/woman who smokes a little pot occasionally to relax after work, is that the breadwinner in the family can no longer provide, so the govt needs to.
Ask any cop who he feels most threatened by...a gentle, relaxed, happy pot smoker, or an insolent, violent, unpredictable drunk.
Holland went from tranquil to a crime ridden nation in a very short period of time after they went soft on drug crime. I do not want that to happen in US. The change in laws in Holland atteacted dozens of crime families in to the nation, and all crime skyrocketed (robberies, theft, murder etc). So, it is not about you relaxing on your couch, it is about everything else that comes with it.
Ironically the pro-pot argument in the 1970s Holland was the exact same as in 2014 US. The Dutch thought it would reduce crime, but the exact opposite happened.
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Holland went from tranquil to a crime ridden nation in a very short period of time after they went soft on drug crime. I do not want that to happen in US. The change in laws in Holland atteacted dozens of crime families in to the nation, and all crime skyrocketed (robberies, theft, murder etc). So, it is not about you relaxing on your couch, it is about everything else that comes with it.
For the last time, that is because it is D-E-C-R-I-M-I-N-A-L-I-Z-E-D and NOT L-E-G-A-L-I-Z-E-D!!! Decriminalization is half a**ing it, and still keeping the black market in play. When prohibition of alcohol went away, so did all of the bootleggers, and speakeasys!
Holland went from tranquil to a crime ridden nation in a very short period of time after they went soft on drug crime. I do not want that to happen in US. The change in laws in Holland atteacted dozens of crime families in to the nation, and all crime skyrocketed (robberies, theft, murder etc). So, it is not about you relaxing on your couch, it is about everything else that comes with it.
Ironically the pro-pot argument in the 1970s Holland was the exact same as in 2014 US. The Dutch thought it would reduce crime, but the exact opposite happened.
Well were the hell are the people supposed to get their weed from if they can't go to the store and buy it?
They get it from criminals.
Yes, our Prohibition of all aspects of the plant, and Holland's Prohibition of distribution has caused increases in crime.
What's new??
How about you use an example from a country that actually legalized the plant. Say Uruagay.
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When I said two wrongs don't make a right, I meant (as I'm sure you already know) that since there is already a problem with alcoholics and drunk drivers in society, why add yet another problem (making a mind-altering drug legal)?
Why do you want to punish users of only certain 'mind-altering' drugs?
Well were the hell are the people supposed to get their weed from if they can't go to the store and buy it?
They get it from criminals.
Yes, our Prohibition of all aspects of the plant, and Holland's Prohibition of distribution has caused increases in crime.
What's new??
How about you use an example from a country that actually legalized the plant. Say Uruagay.
Better yet. Let's see how it plays out in our own country in say places like Colorado and Washington. I'm betting the sky won't fall, and 'Murica will be just fine. Anywho....those who fear legalization I suspect are afraid that it is going to hurt their bottom line. Remember, in the case of the PIC... gotta keep them prisons full, and with Big Pharma, gotta keep people buying their crap!
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It is illegal, so it is obviously wrong. Habitual users have no respect for the law. Yes, the best way to stick it to the cartels is to reduce consumption, but the legalization would the exact opposite. It would increase consumption, and put the cartels on steroids like it did in Holland. Increased presence of cartels brings other crimes like human trafficking, hard drugs, fraud, violence, property crime etc.... The government has a constitutional mandate to prevent that from happening.
And WHEN it's made legal it'll be obviously right, eh?
Better yet. Let's see how it plays out in our own country in say places like Colorado and Washington. I'm betting the sky won't fall, and 'Murica will be just fine. Anywho....those who fear legalization I suspect are afraid that it is going to hurt their bottom line. Remember, in the case of the PIC... gotta keep them prisons full, and with Big Pharma, gotta keep people buying their crap!
I have a guy I work with who's out in Colorado and was there for legalization. He'd never tried marijuana before but wanted to visit the dispenceries. He said some of them had customers take a number and come back because the lines were so long.
Once Colorado starts reaping in all the benefits some of the other states will follow suit. You know government and the corrupt can't resist their money.
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What will they do then?
.....I SALUTE you! 
