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There is a such thing as better too, a flat screen tv is better than a tube tv which means as people buy more it makes it easier for them to lower the cost by manufacturing more, thus making them even more attractive. I send text messages because they are instant, not because they are cheaper than a letter.
You send text because it's cheaper than sending a person to deliver the message in the time you want!!!
Manufacturing jobs weren't minimum wage jobs, and actually many of the jobs that have been lost to technology were anything but minimum wage jobs.
Manufacturing has a ton of repetitive, rote tasks. Tailor made for robotics and investment in technology. And if the jobs they kill are even higher paying than minimum...so much the better for the profit margin and this thing called progress. If 10 workers can create 1,000 widgets per week, and one robot can make 100,000 widgets in the same week, the robot is hired and the workers can collect their last paycheck on the way to retraining for a more evolved function.
If productivity is going up, therefore their pay should go up with that productivity. Did your boss give you a raise after saying lifeexplorer, we have noticed that you have managed to double your productivity, therefore we are giving you a dollar raise?
We had this discussion before. Productivity does not equal to value. Productivity going up means jack squat if you aren't producing value.
We can't have the same discussion over and over again.
We had this discussion before. Productivity does not equal to value. Productivity going up means jack squat if you aren't producing value.
We can't have the same discussion over and over again.
Productivity is often used in place of the word value.
The "value" of the things employees make has gone up consistently, additionally the total value created by employees has incresed regularly.
Your argument is that it should in fact all go towards the ceo's....who aren't doing anything new compared to ceo's of the past....and yet you dont seem to understand that at all.
That's child play. You are the one saying they need an increase, and then tell us what more value that they have produced to justify the increase.
Sure-the value they create has increased exponentially, and the skills needed are often much higher then they were before. In point of fact they are getting less and less for what they work for, the argument is being made to reset it again to a point in 1968, fair given the fact that for a decade compensation on the low end has been lower then average.
Seriously dude, what sort of america do you want to live in? Where the vast majority of us are in poverty or not? While we are creating ever larger amounts of value, should all the results of the work go to a few at the top?
By your argument minimum wage workers have done NOTHING to deserve a raise since they were making $.25/hr
Your argument is foolish.
They haven't done anything. Since the minimum wage was first declared back when FDR was finding a new way every week to prolong the Great Depression and exacerbate its negatives, the work of those at the un/low skilled ranks has not measurably improved, but both employers and government alike have enacted cost of living increases to keep pace with inflation.
I will get a cost of living increase this year. It's in my contract. It actually says it has a minimum and anything above that is based on performance. OK, that means the portion that is minimum has nothing whatsoever to do with my increasing my value to the company. I get that portion simply because time has gone by. I know this kind of wording offends you, but it's a fact. When a government arbitrarily raises a wage floor, it has nothing to do with increased value, and everything to do with tyranny. If the employer chooses to raise compensations as a group or to each individual separately, that might be value based.
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