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Old 02-03-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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35 hr work week to reduce unemployment


Carefully ignored is the fact that you must spend more overhead training more people to get the same amount of work done, set up more accounting, pay for more benefits packages etc., all while the employees bring in no more revenue than the reduced number of 40-hour workers did.

GREAT idea.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The IRS defined full time as 30 hours.
As far as overtime the IRS didn't say a word.
IRS defined full time as 30 hours for purposes of ACA.

A 1937 federal labor law defined when OT must be paid to non-exempt workers.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I know that but it's fodder for the raise minimum wage groups.

According to the BLS over 60% of min wage workers are students (HS or college) and their household income is upwards of $75K a year which I read as "they are still living at home/dependents".

The MSM articles use words like "some college" and leaves the reader to assume they are not in school.
The MSM completely omits the household income of these part time workers as I guess there's no way around that $75K a year.
I believe right now those under 20 can be paid $4.25 for the first 90 days of employment which would cover most summer jobs.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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IRS defined full time as 30 hours for purposes of ACA.

A 1937 federal labor law defined when OT must be paid to non-exempt workers.
Well the more you know the more you understand.
The IRS could only step in where there was no Fed law in place.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I believe right now those under 20 can be paid $4.25 for the first 90 days of employment which would cover most summer jobs.
My son started right off at min wage.
HS seniors getting their first jobs are staring off at min wage at the local places.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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We didn't have any drought here. Last summer was very wet, so weather has noting to do with the price of beef.
Multi-year droughts is states that produce most of the beef cattle.......

More than 50% of all beef comes from only 5 states, Texas, Nebraska, Kansas, California and Oklahoma.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I guess you haven't heard that full time is now defined as 30 hrs/wk. People have been cut back in their hours because of Obamacare.
My comment targeted the hyperbole.....

Most people who worked > 30 hours a week have not been cut back to < 30 hours a week.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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ObamaCare hasn't caused jobs to be lost, it has caused full time jobs to not be created. I am not arguing over semantics but we see less workers get full time jobs because companies now have to pay for health benefits for every full time employee working over 30 hours after you have.50 employees. That means they could save that cost by switching employees to part time and hiring more employees less money for less hour than the costs to keep the employees they currently have being paid benefits they might not have been offered prior.
It's not a one sized fits all situation.
Stryker Corportation Confirms ObamaCare Layoffs | The Colorado Observer
Stryker Corp., which manufactures medical devices, confirmed this week that the company will lay off about 1,000 employees as a result of a 2.3 percent excise tax on medical devices starting in 2013 under the Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare
Medical Device Tax Blamed for Welch Allyn Layoffs | MDDI Medical Device and Diagnostic Industry News Products and Suppliers
Welch Allyn yesterday became the latest medical device company to announce a round of layoffs itís blaming on the medical device tax.
The Skaneateles Falls, NY-based manufacturer of medical diagnostic and therapeutic devices, cardiac defibrillators, patient monitoring systems, and miniature precision lamps says it will eliminate around 275 jobs over the next three years through voluntary and involuntary measures. The layoffs will affect around 10% of the companyís 2,750 employees. Welch Allyn will also perform a 90-day evaluation of its European operations and reorganize its business in Latin America.
As part of the restructuring, the company will consolidate its North American manufacturing. Production of its patient monitoring, systems, and low acuity vital signs products will move from Beaverton, OR, to Skaneateles Falls, while production of thermometer probe covers, lamps, and some blood pressure cuff will move from Skaneateles Falls to Tijuana Mexico, where the company also plans to open a shared service center. Welch Allyn will also open three new product development centers, in Skaneateles Falls; Beaverton, OR; and Singapore.
Wendy's Franchisee Slashes Employee Hours To Sidestep Obamacare
The owner of several Wendy's restaurants in Omaha, Neb., is attempting to sidestep Obamacare by cutting hundreds of workersí hours so that they will not be legally entitled to health benefits, WOWT NBC reports.
Gary Burdette, vice president of operations for the Wendy's franchise, told the news station that costs associated with Obamacare are forcing the business to reduce hours for around 300 "non-management" employees to 28 hours a week. Scott King is the owner of the restaurants, Wendy's spokesman Denny Lynch told The Huffington Post.
Obamacare to cause massive job losses across food service industry
(NaturalNews) It's been labeled as one of the primary reasons why job growth in the U.S. continues to lag, but apparently no one at the White House is listening.[snip]

Initially, said David Barr, an Atlanta-area Taco Bell and Kentucky Fried Chicken franchiser told the paper, most business owners believed the early reports saying Obamacare would impact them hard were overblown. "They had their head in the sand," Barr said.

Costs to double, profits to be cut in half

But then he pulled out his PowerPoint presentation that showed how funding Obamacare will cut his, and those of his fellow small business owners,' profits in half overnight.

"With simple math the small business folks understood, he spelled out that their only choice is to slash employee hours so they aren't eligible for company-paid health care or stop offering insurance and pay the $2,000 per employee fine," the paper reported.

Stop right here. You need to understand that this is coming from the mouth of a man, a real business owner, who actually has to make payrolls every two weeks, not some partisan hack trying to score political points. He's telling you that the impact of Obamacare is not only real but that it's getting ready to make an already bad employment situation even worse. That's important to note, given the administration's continued insistence that the law is not going to hurt employment or small businesses.
That's for starters. I'm sure you can find similar articles, and I only provided a small sampling of what I found.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Most people who worked > 30 hours a week have not been cut back to < 30 hours a week.
"Most people"?

So if, say, "only" 40% of the people working more than 30 hours/week, got cut back, that number is OK?

Apparently, if the number of people who got nailed, isn't enough to form a majority to vote the liberals out of office, that's all the liberals really care about?

What IS the percentage who got cut back, anyway?
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:30 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Ohio is now the epicenter of cattle ranching ?
There is a lot of beef raised here in Ohio. Do you think we only raise dairy cows?
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