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Old 02-07-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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When you have no logical response, attack their intellectual ability. Well done.
Poor you.

The reason you and your friend's intellectual ability is being questioned is because you've both put it in question.

Welcome to the wonderful world of critical thinking. I hope you'll stay.

 
Old 02-07-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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When you have no logical response, attack their intellectual ability. Well done.
What intellectual ability?

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Sigh... I've already stated multiple times that ID is NOT Creationism. It does NOT assert that the universe and all living things were created.
tl;dr on your "multiple times".

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The Theory of Evolution and ID coexist. There is evidence of both, and neither has a complete record.
If the mere concept that humans can genetically modify things does "not fit the Theory of Evolution", then the mere concept of the platypus does not fit Intelligent Design.

Either that, or the platypus is the DeviantArt stage of said Designer.
 
Old 02-07-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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^^ like I said, he has no argument based in logic.

He read a couple sentences that sounded smart on a creationist blog and now he's spreading the truth.

 
Old 02-07-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Your condescending manner is tiring. I'll not waste more time here.
 
Old 02-07-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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If the mere concept that humans can genetically modify things does "not fit the Theory of Evolution"
In the extent that humans create by doing so that which would not exist naturally, exactly. It doesn't.
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then the mere concept of the platypus does not fit Intelligent Design.
Exactly. It doesn't.

You're still stuck in the either/or false dichotomy.

Critical thinking. Try it...
 
Old 02-07-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Your condescending manner is tiring. I'll not waste more time here.
They're not about intellectual debate. They're about throwing temper tantrums because they cannot grasp the concepts.
 
Old 02-07-2014, 11:32 AM
 
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You're still stuck in the either/or false dichotomy.
You actually have no idea what I think in regards to the theory of evolution and/or ID and/or creationism. All you saw was one post disagreeing with one sentence and assume I don't agree with anything you've said or didn't say.

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They're not about intellectual debate. They're about throwing temper tantrums because they cannot grasp the concepts.


We're on a forum designed to say whatever we want without even looking/reading/understanding other viewpoints. Intellectual debate does not exist here.
 
Old 02-07-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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You actually have no idea what I think in regards to the theory of evolution and/or ID and/or creationism.
Really? It's easy to tell from your post in this thread that you're still stuck in the either/or false dichotomy:
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Just because something exists because "an intelligent cause" made it so does not mean that literally everything in the world was.
 
Old 02-07-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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Here's the problem with making up a new definition of Intelligent Design (I.e.: Something that we can prove had a designer, like GMO crops)

The definition is all well and good (yet still completely made up and not at all what the current movement for Intelligent Design is about). But it still falls under scientific rules. GMO crops? Mules? Other things that we can empirically prove had intelligent intervention? Yes. We can technically call that "Intelligent Design".

As an alternative to evolution though? Which is what Intelligent Design was (lol) created to be?

It still fails. There is absolutely zero proof of an intelligent designer when it comes to most species out there. We cannot prove that humans were originally "intelligently designed", but we can empirically prove that they evolved. Same with pretty much everything out there.

In that matter, evolution has empirical proof and is scientific. Intelligent design as a means to explaining "how we got here", however, is not scientific. Therefore, it does not belong in the science classroom.
 
Old 02-07-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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Really? It's easy to tell from your post in this thread that you're still stuck in the either/or false dichotomy:
When in the real world, it's easy to tell from your parroting that you read a big word and are now using it everywhere incorrectly. Because, if you can't comprehend, the concept that certain mutations/evolutionary traits are done by design and that some could potentially be caused by natural forces is pretty much agreed upon by most intellectuals.

Buuuut, if you'd like to present how you come to the conclusion that this ideal is a false dilemma, please feel free to.
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