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Old 11-30-2007, 03:01 PM
 
Location: On another site. This one is lame :) Trying to give it a second chance though.
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The reason why the "Democratically controlled Congress" has FAILED to get anything done has nothing to do with the Democrats.

It's the party-line voting from the Republicans.

In case you didn't know, a "majority vote' is NOT simply 51%. It requires two-thirds. Right now, the Democrats are NOT in control, but they are the majority in numbers.

They still need Republican support to get anything done. Democrats do NOT make up 2/3rds of the house.

Blame the Republicans, and their indignant refusal to go along with anything proposed by a Democrat. THAT is why nothing is getting done.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:13 PM
 
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Don't forget that Bush is a "uniter" not a divider.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:14 PM
 
Location: wrong planet
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Don't forget that Bush is a "uniter" not a divider.
I think of that all the time, LOL
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:21 PM
 
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The reason why the "Democratically controlled Congress" has FAILED to get anything done has nothing to do with the Democrats.

It's the party-line voting from the Republicans.

In case you didn't know, a "majority vote' is NOT simply 51%. It requires two-thirds. Right now, the Democrats are NOT in control, but they are the majority in numbers.

They still need Republican support to get anything done. Democrats do NOT make up 2/3rds of the house.

Blame the Republicans, and their indignant refusal to go along with anything proposed by a Democrat. THAT is why nothing is getting done.
Do you think that party line voting is exclusive to the republicans? I agree that it's a huge problem, but both parties do it.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:22 PM
 
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Maybe Congress should pass a nonbinding resolution where they declare that Bush in not a uniter.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:24 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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I'm not unhappy the Dems haven't done anything,I don't want them to do anything,because most of what they want to do I don't agree with anyway.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:27 PM
 
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The reason why the "Democratically controlled Congress" has FAILED to get anything done has nothing to do with the Democrats.

It's the party-line voting from the Republicans.

In case you didn't know, a "majority vote' is NOT simply 51%. It requires two-thirds. Right now, the Democrats are NOT in control, but they are the majority in numbers.

They still need Republican support to get anything done. Democrats do NOT make up 2/3rds of the house.

Blame the Republicans, and their indignant refusal to go along with anything proposed by a Democrat. THAT is why nothing is getting done.
I would agree with you except..

Bill Clinton, someone whom the Democrats toute as "The best president ever".. worked very effectively under a Republican controlled Congress. The Republican Congress at the time, knew that Clinton had to sign off on bills, and didnt outright create bills that they knew would be veto'd, just for the sake of creating pro-republican press stories, which is what the Democrats in Congress are doing now.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:55 PM
 
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It just feels so "right" (heh, heh) to put the blame on the left--where it belongs.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:26 PM
 
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The reason why the "Democratically controlled Congress" has FAILED to get anything done has nothing to do with the Democrats.

It's the party-line voting from the Republicans.

In case you didn't know, a "majority vote' is NOT simply 51%. It requires two-thirds. Right now, the Democrats are NOT in control, but they are the majority in numbers.

They still need Republican support to get anything done. Democrats do NOT make up 2/3rds of the house.

Blame the Republicans, and their indignant refusal to go along with anything proposed by a Democrat. THAT is why nothing is getting done.
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. --Mark Twain

Well much of America is very unhappy with Washington and want out of Iraq and the Middle East in general. Part of the reason that Democrats were voted in, not just to the Congress but surprisingly to the Senate as well was the people expressing their displeasure through the vote. Since the Democrats have been in office they have done little to vote for the reasons their constituents voted them into office to do in the first place.

As to their not being the super majority of 2/3 being an excuse for getting so little accomplished, this excuse only goes so far. In the case of the FISA bill, there were even Republicans who signed on to that one but it wasn't pressed very hard. There is also the use of Filibuster or in some cases the Cloture vote. Then of course there is the use of the fourth estate to appeal to the constituency, in which case the Democrats have failed at miserably.

Part of this behavior is due to the independent views held by a wide variety of Democrats and liberals in which they don't always agree on issues themselves. The adage of herding angry cats comes to mind. Contemporary Republicans are more authoritarian in nature and tend to be in lock step, like thou shalt not criticize fellow Republicans, or Reagan's 11th commandment.

Is it all the Democrats fault, of course not, but they are as much to blame as Republicans in my view. Just ask Nancy "impeachment is off the table" Peliosi for example for her brilliant leadership skills.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:28 PM
 
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The blame belongs to the worst president this country has ever had and his cronies. To expect the Democrats to "fix" everything in a year, is expecting the impossible. Not that I place a lot of confidence in any politicians, most of them are nothing but corporate whores. Bin Laden must be laughing his head off in his cave.... he succeeded in bancrupting this country... and it is getting worse with no end in sight.
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