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Old 02-07-2014, 05:05 PM
 
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Can someone tell me why it is if you are from 40-64 and getting a break from the ACA you are a leech. But if you are over 65 and on Medicare you are a hero and the $9,000 subsidy you are getting from the government is richly deserved?
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:00 PM
 
Location: California
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When everyone has access to the same plans (no "special rates for employers") then things will be real. Until then we are living with a two tiered system that is doomed.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:03 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Another scare thread!

The company I retired from is still giving good heathcare to current employees as well as pre-medicare retirees. If you want employees to stay around you need to offer good bennies.
Bingo. We would not even think for a second of not offering better than average (by far) coverage.
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:48 AM
 
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Lol...Yeah..big difference.

Why not have them provide my car and homeowners insurance too?
A very poor try at a division.

YOU said they were in the HEALTH CARE business. Back it up.

Of ALL the jobs I had, NONE were in the health care business, yet I had health care insurance.

Face it. You blew it.
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:51 AM
 
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Not if we have to settle for something that costs more but offers less.

LOL! Well, you just described Obamacare...
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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Can someone tell me why it is if you are from 40-64 and getting a break from the ACA you are a leech. But if you are over 65 and on Medicare you are a hero and the $9,000 subsidy you are getting from the government is richly deserved?
Are you really this ignorant?

Maybe if you did some research on the subjects at hand you wouldn't ask such ignorant questions.

I'll give you 1 hint. People PAID for medicare through out their careers and IF they take out Medicare part B,C,D or medicare Advantage, they PAY for it. It is NOT FREE.

'The mind is a terrible thing to waste."
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Are you really this ignorant?

Maybe if you did some research on the subjects at hand you wouldn't ask such ignorant questions.

'The mind is a terrible thing to waste."
He can't write a post without bringing up some combination of Medicare, Tricare, Veterans Affairs, "Republicans", the TEA Party and mobility scooters. Virtually every post he writes - regardless of the topic - includes complaining about one or more of the above. That's why I put him on ignore.
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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My employer has firmly stated that they will not change, reduce or drop our coverage. We have great coverage which is free to the employee, unless they add a spouse and/or children to their plan in which case we pay premiums on them.

I think it would be nice if our nation could provide some kind of very basic coverage to every citizen. But I also think they really bungled the attempt. Everything about Obamacare from what I've heard, is horribly broken.
It's not "free". You have to earn 100% of it, no matter how much it is.
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:09 AM
 
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The ONLY reason that Canada is able to negotiate those low prices is because the U.S. (a country with 10x the population, and a drug market that's 10x larger) picks up the slack. If the U.S. went single payer, you'd see drug prices drop a little, but Canada would no longer be getting the prices they're getting now. THEY would be paying full retail, and WE would be getting the discount, but it wouldn't be anywhere near what they're currently enjoying.
That's right because only the US create medicines, performs R&D etc. All modern, civilized nations negotiate drug prices, except the stupids, the gullible and the hustlers.
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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The Washington Examiner say, “44% of US companies considering dropping insurance coverage of current workers due to Obamacare.

Gee whiz. How's all that “Hope and Change” working for you? Read the full piece @ Poor Richard's News - 44% of US companies considering dropping insurance coverage of current workers due to Obamacare
You and whoever wrote the article don't know the difference between 'dropping health insurance' and 'consider reducing health benefits' in their plans.

This is nothing new. Higher deductibles, copays, co-insurance and premiums for less coverage are coming. Along with reduced hours, more part-time rather than full-time employment.
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