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Old 02-11-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by johnwk1
SEE:
TheBlaze,
Feb. 4, 2014

‘APattern of Lawlessness’: Ted Cruz Outlines Why Even Democrats Should Be ConcernedAbout Obama Administration’s Actions


"Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R) said there is a “pattern of lawlessness” under wayby the Obama administration that is truly “breathtaking,” and it should not only concern Republicans.

“Suppose the next president says, ‘I’m instructing the Treasury Department [to]no longer collect taxes at a higher rate than 25%,” Cruz remarked on Glenn Beck’s radio program Tuesday. “That happens to be policy I agree with. I would love to see moving towards tax reform and lowering the top rates. And yet, that would be an extraordinarily bad outcome from the perspective of the Constitution and the protection of the liberty of the people.”

Until Congress is forbidden to lay and collect any tax calculated from profits,gains and other "incomes", returning us to our Constitution’s original tax plan, productive citizens will not only be singled out and enslaved under this discriminatory and despotic tax, but under the heal of our federal government who use it as a weapon to intimidate all those who dare to speak out against, or pose a threat to our Washington Establishment. Does Senator Cruz not realize this? Lowering top rates and keeping this tax alive does absolutely nothing to remove this power of taxation which is used to cause many of our miseries.

Have we not suffered enough under this tax to end experimenting with it and return to the wisdom of our Founder’s original tax plan, especially its rule requiring any general tax laid among the states to be apportioned?

JWK

“The apportionment of representation and taxation by the same scale is just; it removes the objection, that, while Virginia paid one sixth part of the expenses of the Union, she had no more weight in public counsels than Delaware, which paid but a very small portion” 3Elliot’s 41___ PENDLETON, during our Constitution’s ratification debates




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Tell me how that's not regressive as heck.
Regressive? Please elaborate.

JWK
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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The tax on "incomes" is basically used to manipulate businesses and individuals in addition to redistributing the wealth which our businesses and productive members of society have created. Call it what you wish but I can assure you it is not what our Constitution permits. It is tyranny!


JWK
Oh noes! Its Tyranny! Please stop! We deserve to have a plutocracy!

"Help, I'm being oppressed. Come and see the
violence inherent in the system."
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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The Constitution that poor people were excluded from framing?
Yes because they weren't nearly educated enough to do so.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:55 PM
 
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Default Mark Levin ignores Constitution's legislative intent!

I believe those who support and defend our Constitution’s legislative intent, which Mark Levin is fond of talking about, would expect that each state is held to the constitutional requirement that its share of representatives sent to Congress is proportional to its share of any direct tax laid by Congress. The two formulas being:


States’ population

---------------------------- X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE’S FAIR SHARE

Total U.S. Population



State`s Pop.
___________ X House size (435) = State`s No. of Representatives
U.S. total pop


And with regard to the rule of apportionment, Congress does have authority to lay a capitation tax which is a direct tax, and may be levied directly upon the people by Congress. However, this tax boils down to be an equal per capita tax under the rule of apportionment if laid directly upon the people! For example, if a capitation tax were laid today and the people of New York each had to pay one dollar to meet New York’s apportioned share of the total sum being raised by Congress, the people of Idaho would likewise only have to pay one dollar each if the tax were shared evenly among the people living in Idaho. And, although New York’s total share of the tax would be far greater than that of Idaho because of New York’s larger population, New York is compensated by its larger representation in Congress, which is also part of our Constitution’s fair share formula!

The wisdom of our founder’s rule of apportionment is, that although a particular state with a large population has an overwhelming representation in Congress when spending federal revenue such as New York, it would be held in check by the rule of apportionment which commands they pay a larger share of the tab whenever a direct tax is laid among the states.

Is it not obvious that our big spending Congressional Delegations such as New York, California, Pennsylvanian, New Jersey, etc., love our Constitution’s rule of apportionment when it comes to one man one vote, but they fear with a passion the rule of apportionment being applied to taxation which requires one vote one dollar which is not being enforced, and why they engage in reckless spending and borrowing?


JWK




If the America People do not rise up and defend their existing Constitution and the intentions and beliefs under which it was adopted, who is left to do so but the very people it was designed to control and regulate?
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Old 02-11-2014, 05:01 PM
 
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SEE:
TheBlaze,
Feb. 4, 2014

‘APattern of Lawlessness’: Ted Cruz Outlines Why Even Democrats Should Be ConcernedAbout Obama Administration’s Actions


"Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R) said there is a “pattern of lawlessness” under wayby the Obama administration that is truly “breathtaking,” and it should not only concern Republicans.

“Suppose the next president says, ‘I’m instructing the Treasury Department [to]no longer collect taxes at a higher rate than 25%,” Cruz remarked on Glenn Beck’s radio program Tuesday. “That happens to be policy I agree with. I would love to see moving towards tax reform and lowering the top rates. And yet, that would be an extraordinarily bad outcome from the perspective of the Constitution and the protection of the liberty of the people.”

Until Congress is forbidden to lay and collect any tax calculated from profits,gains and other "incomes", returning us to our Constitution’s original tax plan, productive citizens will not only be singled out and enslaved under this discriminatory and despotic tax, but under the heal of our federal government who use it as a weapon to intimidate all those who dare to speak out against, or pose a threat to our Washington Establishment. Does Senator Cruz not realize this? Lowering top rates and keeping this tax alive does absolutely nothing to remove this power of taxation which is used to cause many of our miseries.

Have we not suffered enough under this tax to end experimenting with it and return to the wisdom of our Founder’s original tax plan, especially its rule requiring any general tax laid among the states to be apportioned?

JWK

“The apportionment of representation and taxation by the same scale is just; it removes the objection, that, while Virginia paid one sixth part of the expenses of the Union, she had no more weight in public counsels than Delaware, which paid but a very small portion” 3Elliot’s 41___ PENDLETON, during our Constitution’s ratification debates



This is another example of the rank dishonesty of so many conservatives. conservatives do what I call word vomit, just a collection of nonsense spewed all over.

Look if a Senator any Senator really thinks that a President is lawless, then that Senator has the duty to impeach that President.

Or else that Senator is saying that a President can remain lawless without consequence.

Now either Cruz believes that the President is lawless, but is ignoring his oath of office to impeach the President or he is a liar who is just spewing word vomit to be consumed by other conservatives.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:09 PM
 
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This is another example of the rank dishonesty of so many conservatives. conservatives do what I call word vomit, just a collection of nonsense spewed all over.

Look if a Senator any Senator really thinks that a President is lawless, then that Senator has the duty to impeach that President.

Or else that Senator is saying that a President can remain lawless without consequence.

Now either Cruz believes that the President is lawless, but is ignoring his oath of office to impeach the President or he is a liar who is just spewing word vomit to be consumed by other conservatives.
How can you truthfully call them "conservatives" when they are not conserving our Constitution and its legislative intent?

I think a more appropriate term would be flimflam artists!


JWK


Reaching across the aisle and bipartisanship is Washington Newspeak to subvert the Constitution and screw the American People.
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, Austin, Texas
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I had no idea it was possible to make almost 200k and pay a single digit income tax rate.

"[Texas] Attorney General Greg Abbott and his wife, Cecilia, paid almost $14,000 in taxes on an adjusted gross income of $191,448, according to their 2013 tax return, released today by his campaign for governor."

Greg Abbott releases his taxes; Wendy Davis gets an extension | www.statesman.com
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