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Old 02-12-2014, 01:24 AM
 
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Where in the constitution does it say that a convicted felon should lose his voting rights?
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:25 AM
 
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Thank you as usual, for your brutal total honesty. You got that right. You can believe it, that they want convicts to be reliable Democrat voters. Takes a Crook, to know one.

This is the most corrupt Administration ever, and anyone associated with Obama, is scum.

For the good of the people my azz, for the good of the most corrupt party ever.
It's not corruption, it's just American politics. How are Republicans any better when they want to disenfranchise millions of people from being able to vote for no other good reason other then they know that they're vote against them?
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:32 AM
 
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I agree, but they can't have it both ways... How can Democrats state that after a felon has done their time, they should get their Constitutional right to vote back, but not their Constitutional right to own a firearm? Seems like a double standard here to me...

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Absolutely correct. There is nothing in the Constitution about losing your 2nd amendment rights for a felony conviction either. In fact, that is the reason so many former misdemeanors are being made into felonies. Make everything a felony and take away more gun rights.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:33 AM
 
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Where in the constitution does it say that a convicted felon should lose his voting rights?
Exactly. It doesn't. Neither does it say his right to keep and bear arms will be removed.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:35 AM
 
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But i am not sure how i feel on this, if a convict has done his time, is it not fair for him to not vote, this is where i have a problem. I am mixed up on this one.
Don't be. Convicted felons should not lose their Constitutional rights.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:36 AM
 
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Where in the constitution does it say that a convicted felon should lose his voting rights?
Apparently the 14th amendment Section 2 gives states the power to disenfranchise felons...

Richardson v. Ramirez

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The Court pointed to Section 2 of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution which exempted felony disenfranchisement laws from the heightened scrutiny given to other restrictions on the right to vote. The Court said that Section 2, which reduces a state’s representation in Congress if the state has denied the right to vote for any reason “except for participation in rebellion, or other crime,” distinguishes felony disenfranchisement from other forms of voting restrictions, which must be narrowly tailored to serve compelling state interests in order to be constitutional.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:41 AM
 
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Apparently the 14th amendment Section 2 gives states the power to disenfranchise felons...
It would be the 10th if at all, but the right to vote and bear arms is clearly detailed in the Constitution, so the states have no authority to override the Constitution. In the case of same-sex marriage, marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution, so the states have the right to decide that on their own, at least according to the Constitution. Gay rights advocates and some activist judges argue otherwise of course.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:42 AM
 
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It would be the 10th if at all, but the right to vote and bear arms is clearly detailed in the Constitution, so the states have no authority to override the Constitution. In the case of same-sex marriage, marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution, so the states have the right to decide that on their own, at least according to the Constitution. Gay rights advocates and some activist judges argue otherwise of course.
I edited my post. Go back and look...


Richardson v. Ramirez

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The Court pointed to Section 2 of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution which exempted felony disenfranchisement laws from the heightened scrutiny given to other restrictions on the right to vote. The Court said that Section 2, which reduces a state’s representation in Congress if the state has denied the right to vote for any reason “except for participation in rebellion, or other crime,” distinguishes felony disenfranchisement from other forms of voting restrictions, which must be narrowly tailored to serve compelling state interests in order to be constitutional.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:48 AM
 
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I edited my post. Go back and look...


Richardson v. Ramirez

I apologize. I just reread Section 2 of the 14th Amendment and it does disenfranchise male criminals from voting. According to the Constitution as worded, amended, and ratified, female convicted felons can vote. Very interesting indeed.
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:45 AM
 
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Exactly. It doesn't. Neither does it say his right to keep and bear arms will be removed.
No, but it does say it will be well-regulated.

The right to vote is a pretty important part of a democracy/republic. If the founding fathers thought felons should lose that right, I'm pretty sure they would have mentioned that.
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