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Old 02-12-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jmqueen View Post
So when you and your wife were just living together, did the IRS allow you to file taxes jointly and save a ton of money? No? Imagine that.

Eventually you were *allowed* by the state to get married and enjoy 1,000 or more legal benefits of that legal status. And you want to deny that to others because … it's "icky"?

Why do you believe in legal discrimination against your fellow human beings and citizens?
We filed taxes as it says we are to file them. I sure didn't get married because of that lol...that's silly. Homosexuals can't "marry" because marriage is for 1 man and 1 woman.
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Unless you plan to repeal the Second Amendment, you won't be able to "cleanse" anyone against their will.

I apologize for the inconvenience.
No plans for that at all.
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Yet, you were able to get married, weren't you? And you took advantage of that fact. Why do you want to discriminate against others simply because you don't like that they're not like you?

The rest of your post is nothing but dramatics. Grow up.
Marriage is 1 man 1 woman...end of the story.
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Are you saying that if you were in charge, your final solution to the homosexual problem would be a cleansing?
You said that not me.

 
Old 02-12-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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Marriage is 1 man 1 woman...end of the story.
How is my loving my husband and the two of us making a home and life together (and yes, having sex with one another) while availing ourselves to the privileges of civil marriage law wrong? How is that a bad thing?
 
Old 02-12-2014, 09:50 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Allowing gay marriage will result in the complete downfall of society. There will be mass chaos. Like there has been in the states where it's legal. Oh wait...

LOL. "They" said that when pot was legalized in Colorado and Washington. From what I understand, the sky hasn't fallen in those two states due to legalization, and for the most part things appear to be so far so good.
 
Old 02-12-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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So then please explain how you impose your iron will on the entire population (no point in being a dictator otherwise) without disarming them first. (I assume you're talking about something a bit more drastic than a slight adjustment in the compensation rules for federal contractors.)
 
Old 02-12-2014, 09:52 AM
 
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Marriage is 1 man 1 woman...end of the story.

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Nope.
 
Old 02-12-2014, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The Texas vote was nearly 10 years ago. Opinions on gay marriage have changed dramatically in that time, and I am willing to bet they have in Texas too. Texas is the bible belt but in-migration has softened the edges there. If another vote were held today, gay marriage might still lose but it would not be 70-30. That shows, though, the problems in using popular opinion to decide people's rights. How often do we sample public opinion when we know it is fluid? What if Texans now favor allowing gay marriage? Suppose they change their minds one way or the other down the road? Do we give people rights based on the latest plebiscite results? Or should human rights endure and transcend popular opinion?
 
Old 02-12-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The Texas vote was nearly 10 years ago. Opinions on gay marriage have changed dramatically in that time, and I am willing to bet they have in Texas too. Texas is the bible belt but in-migration has softened the edges there. If another vote were held today, gay marriage might still lose but it would not be 70-30. That shows, though, the problems in using popular opinion to decide people's rights. How often do we sample public opinion when we know it is fluid? What if Texans now favor allowing gay marriage? Suppose they change their minds one way or the other down the road? Do we give people rights based on the latest plebiscite results? Or should human rights endure and transcend popular opinion?
Fine then put it to a vote instead of crying to a judge.
 
Old 02-12-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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Do we give people rights based on the latest plebiscite results? Or should human rights endure and transcend popular opinion?
Our Founders were very clear on that issue. They enshrined them in our Constitution and set up a non-democratic judiciary as arbitrator.
 
Old 02-12-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That is the history of the US like it or not.

If times have changed that much then put it to a vote by the people in the state.
Loving vs Virginia disagrees with you, you should study the US history better.
 
Old 02-12-2014, 10:05 AM
 
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So then please explain how you impose your iron will on the entire population (no point in being a dictator otherwise) without disarming them first. (I assume you're talking about something a bit more drastic than a slight adjustment in the compensation rules for federal contractors.)
You aren't going to bait me. Nice try.
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Nope.
I said end of story. Your opinion is mute.
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The Texas vote was nearly 10 years ago. Opinions on gay marriage have changed dramatically in that time, and I am willing to bet they have in Texas too. Texas is the bible belt but in-migration has softened the edges there. If another vote were held today, gay marriage might still lose but it would not be 70-30. That shows, though, the problems in using popular opinion to decide people's rights. How often do we sample public opinion when we know it is fluid? What if Texans now favor allowing gay marriage? Suppose they change their minds one way or the other down the road? Do we give people rights based on the latest plebiscite results? Or should human rights endure and transcend popular opinion?
NC just voted 2 years ago overwhelmingly to ban this crap...I guarantee Tx would ban it again but it wouldn't matter...some judge would just impose his will on others.
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