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Doing the very thing that I said you do with the numbers proves my point.
All employer provided health insurance is subsidized, if we can't afford to subsidize these American's health insurance then we can't afford to subsidize anyone's employer provided health insurance.
how many times are you going to post the most asinine theories that an employer provided health insurance that you work for, is the same as a handout?
The Republican Plan which would have taxed the middle class much harder because taxes were repealed from the wealthy would have had an auto-enrollment feature which would have automatically enrolled people who were below the 300% FPL. You can see how much better automatic enrollment would be in increasing enrollment.
Yes employer provided health insurance is subsidized by the government. This is objective reality and is not a controversial or debatable point of view.
How many threads are you going to post these asinine comments on?
once again, government ALLOWING YOU TO KEEP your money IS NOT A GOD DAM SUBSIDY..
So why not just get rid of every credit, write-off, subsidy, etc. and just tax every person, company, entity, etc. in the U.S. at a 17.5% tax rate.
If you make a dollar you pay $.18 cents in taxes to the government.
If you make $50,000,000,000 you pay $8.75 billion to the government.
Iamme73 is all for that, I'm sure...
According to Iamme73's math, that $8.75 billion to the government can only happy because they give you $41.25 billion dollar subsidy and allow you to keep whats left.. That government is so dam generous
You make no sense. Your income is not treated the same health insurance benefits for tax purposes.
That's the whole reason it is a subsidy and a tax expenditure.
The exclusion for employer-provided health insurance is far and away the largest tax expenditure. In part this is because it, like all such exclusions, reduces payroll taxes as well as income taxes; it is as if the worker never received the income it represents, although employers may deduct the cost of health insurance as a business expense. In contrast to exclusions, individuals’ tax deductions, exemptions and credits reduce only income taxes.
Perhaps an earlier post of mine in another thread from nearly a year ago will help clear this up.....
04-24-2013, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mircea
You're welcome to provide evidence to support any claim you make....the fact that you never provide evidence hasn't been lost on members.
Tax subsidies...."causes a substantial revenue loss, distributes these tax reductions very regressively, encourages an excessive purchase of insurance, distorts the demand for health services, and thus inflates the prices of these services."
“The Importance of Group Coverage: How Tax Policy Shaped U.S. Health Insurance.”
Perhaps an earlier post of mine in another thread from nearly a year ago will help clear this up.....
04-24-2013, 03:28 PM
Clarifying...
Mircea
And it still isnt a subsidy..
If the employer wasnt paying for the insurance, they would be increasing the employees salary so the employee can pay afford insurance, and it would still be discounted as a business expense from teh employers tax returns and STILL not taxed.
That means I'll see that savings of $2500/year on my health insurance premiums, right?
Wait.......what? That's not going to happen?
Dafuq?
Don't be a lemming, and don't believe everything that comes out of the White House. The vast majority of what they "report" as "facts" are actually lies and exaggerations.
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