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Old 02-15-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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Yet you cannot provide evidence to back up any of the claims you made in this comment. Thats a lot of words to amount to nothing.
LOL! Ok.

When the GOP inevitably regains power (as cycles always happen) and uses the IRS to intimidate liberals, will you then say "look, nothing bad is happening, you have to prove it's for partisan purposes, blah blah"?

Hell no, You'll be screaming mad at the top of your lungs.

It's too bad that your devotion is to party, not truth, to expediency, not liberty.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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You act like you are struggling with the definition of government. Yes, government is the supreme authority. If there is no supreme authority than there is no government.
Again, Somalia lack a strong central government. Is this what you want for the us?





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Then what does it do? I mean, other than arm people who go around shooting others indiscriminately?

You act as if 'government' is defined as some kind of single supreme authority...

There are scores if not hundreds of "governments" in Somalia... a few are "regional" governments that have some kind of national or international recognition... warlords, black marketers, smugglers, tribal systems, Islamics, and others.

Each claims and/or enforces its authority over the people by violence of threat of violence - just as ours now do.

They ARE governments. Plain and simple. Just not the kind you want recognized, because it interferes with your partisan arguments.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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I do and I have college degree to prove it.
Capitalism is an economic system based on private ownership of means of production.
Most of the poorest countries on the planet subscribe to that system. Look up laissez-faire
capitalism.
That's the most hilarious nonsense posted today!!!!

You have been "endowed" with "knowledge" by some paper with fancy art on it.

Not.

And no, you obviously do not, since your definition is wrong. VERY wrong.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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The lack of a strong central government? OH, yes. None is needed.

Oh really? Lol Do you even know why we have one in the US? Because before federal government there was chaos, each state was printing its own money, imposing own tariffs and even had its own foreign policy. The union was going down the drain so a strong federal government was established to organize this chaos.
You want Somalia? Move to Somalia.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:15 PM
 
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You act like you are struggling with the definition of government. Yes, government is the supreme authority. If there is no supreme authority than there is no government.
Again, Somalia lack a strong central government. Is this what you want for the us?
Yes, we need restoration of our NOT STRONG CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.

Why do you ask?

We need restoration of the rule of law, and governments obeying it.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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That's the most hilarious nonsense posted today!!!!

You have been "endowed" with "knowledge" by some paper with fancy art on it.

Not.

And no, you obviously do not, since your definition is wrong. VERY wrong.

Saying its wrong is not enough, show me a better definition of capitalism.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I'm attacking your argument.



I have no party. I argue positions and individuals. In 2012 I voted for national office, one person from the Mountain Party, One Democrat and one that wasn't even on the ballot.
To an extremist right winger, everyone is to the left of you.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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Oh really? Lol Do you even know why we have one in the US? Because before federal government there was chaos, each state was printing its own money, imposing own tariffs and even had its own foreign policy. The union was going down the drain so a strong federal government was established to organize this chaos.
You want Somalia? Move to Somalia.
I guess you don't know history.

Figures.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Exactly. Somalia lacks a strong central government. Is this what you want for the us?
They have a very strong central government. They control much of what goes on there or at least have their fingers in it.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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Lol Its the government, our congress, the president and justices that create laws. Lol

Again bud, read about the history of early us and why it was absolutely necessary to have a strong federal government. Lol




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Yes, we need restoration of our NOT STRONG CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.

Why do you ask?

We need restoration of the rule of law, and governments obeying it.
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