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It's not about global warming, just common sense. Earth is a more or less closed system, its biosphere and climate are impacted by the slightest changes of uncountable variables. 7 billion strong human race impacts biosphere in the ways we can't even imagine with our levels of technology. Much less numerous and technologically savvy human tribes deforested, desertified and changed climate of China, North Africa, Middle East... The rise of primitive agriculture impacted environment, biomes and regional climates in very nasty ways. Green house effect is a mainstream scientific fact for more than 100 years. Millions years ago, coal and oil formation resulted in drastic climate changes. Yet, burning all that coal and oil up should not impact anything because... because climate was always changing. That's beyond realm of the rational. Yes, potentially, geological forces and Sun are way more powerful than human impacts but realistically as of 2014 humans are #1 environmental and climate shaping force in the absence of natural cataclysms. Yes, it's unlikely we would destroy all the life, but it's very likely we would destroy hospitable environment and you can't eat money, stocks, even gold is not palatable. Yes, any day Sun or volcano disaster can dwarf our impacts, does it mean it's OK to trash a house now because one day Earthquake can destroy it?
The question - why conservative mind is in denial of common sense, forget about science? I can make a decent guess for the blue collar talk radio listening crowds. These are waiting for the famous Reagan' tide that would lift their leaking boats and afraid that envirowackoes might hold free market down from unleashing corporate goodness upon them. Generally, few people are stupid to believe that stuff in earnest, but it's much more comfortable and safer belief than the alternatives. It gives this people a safe punching bag to vent their frustrations and it doesn't demand action or efforts. Blue collar conservatives don't want any trouble, they'll take whatever is give and blame things and people they are told to blame if the tide doesn't materialize.
Then there are religious nuts who have dominion over Earth. Bible is mum about ecological Armageddon, with the second coming near, why bother anyway? I presume there are rational and educated conservative people who listen talk radio occasionally for entertainment sake. What's their deal with common sense denial? Are there any well known conservatives that don't deny impact of 7 billions of hairless monkeys on environment and climate?
It is extremely arrogant for humans to think that we can destroy the earth. The only thing we are going to destroy is ourselves, the earth will bounce back.
It's not about global warming, just common sense. Earth is a more or less closed system, its biosphere and climate are impacted by the slightest changes of uncountable variables. 7 billion strong human race impacts biosphere in the ways we can't even imagine with our levels of technology. Much less numerous and technologically savvy human tribes deforested, desertified and changed climate of China, North Africa, Middle East... The rise of primitive agriculture impacted environment, biomes and regional climates in very nasty ways. Green house effect is a mainstream scientific fact for more than 100 years. Millions years ago, coal and oil formation resulted in drastic climate changes. Yet, burning all that coal and oil up should not impact anything because... because climate was always changing. That's beyond realm of the rational. Yes, potentially, geological forces and Sun are way more powerful than human impacts but realistically as of 2014 humans are #1 environmental and climate shaping force in the absence of natural cataclysms. Yes, it's unlikely we would destroy all the life, but it's very likely we would destroy hospitable environment and you can't eat money, stocks, even gold is not palatable. Yes, any day Sun or volcano disaster can dwarf our impacts, does it mean it's OK to trash a house now because one day Earthquake can destroy it?
The question - why conservative mind is in denial of common sense, forget about science? I can make a decent guess for the blue collar talk radio listening crowds. These are waiting for the famous Reagan' tide that would lift their leaking boats and afraid that envirowackoes might hold free market down from unleashing corporate goodness upon them. Generally, few people are stupid to believe that stuff in earnest, but it's much more comfortable and safer belief than the alternatives. It gives this people a safe punching bag to vent their frustrations and it doesn't demand action or efforts. Blue collar conservatives don't want any trouble, they'll take whatever is give and blame things and people they are told to blame if the tide doesn't materialize.
Then there are religious nuts who have dominion over Earth. Bible is mum about ecological Armageddon, with the second coming near, why bother anyway? I presume there are rational and educated conservative people who listen talk radio occasionally for entertainment sake. What's their deal with common sense denial? Are there any well known conservatives that don't deny impact of 7 billions of hairless monkeys on environment and climate?
The Earth is most certainly NOT a "closed system." If it were, there would never have been life on this planet. Not only did every element that constitutes life originate elsewhere, if it was not for the sun none of that life would ever exist. Even the Earth itself is continually changing, recycling its mantle every ~220 million years.
What you seem incapable of comprehending is the difference between local and global climate. Humans can and do pollute their local environment all the time. That is not the same a affecting the global climate. The smog during the 1950s and 1960s over Los Angeles, California, for example, did not have any effect on the climate in London, England, or Cairo, Egypt. All human pollution is local because it is confined to the troposphere where it is washed out of the atmosphere in a matter of weeks.
It is very evident, from your second sentence in your post, that you do not know anything about science. Before you start making unfounded accusations perhaps you should get a clue first and actually learn something.
It is extremely arrogant for humans to think that we can destroy the earth. The only thing we are going to destroy is ourselves, the earth will bounce back.
I didn't write about "destroying the Earth". We can destroy livable environment for ourselves (not speaking of other species), we did it countless times before on smaller scale. Now we do it on the planetary scale, and we didn't invent a warp drive yet to escape to an extraterrestrial America.
I didn't write about "destroying the Earth". We can destroy livable environment for ourselves (not speaking of other species), we did it countless times before on smaller scale. Now we do it on the planetary scale, and we didn't invent a warp drive yet to escape to an extraterrestrial America.
Like I said, we will destroy ourselves, the earth will bounce back. You talk about "destroying a house", well my bad then, I thought you were referring to the earth. What else were you referring to then?
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Yes, any day Sun or volcano disaster can dwarf our impacts, does it mean it's OK to trash a house now because one day Earthquake can destroy it?
The question is not whether or not man is doing damage to the environment. We have. That said, the facts don't support CO2 emissions as having a significant impact. In fact quite the opposite. Now if you want to discuss other elements that could affect the environment, that is a different topic. As for affecting our climate, our climate on earth has always changed from the beginning of time. We have had warming trends and cooling trends. The case for Man made global warming has been shot full of holes.
It is extremely arrogant for humans to think that we can destroy the earth. The only thing we are going to destroy is ourselves, the earth will bounce back.
I seriously doubt we could destroy ourselves. After all, we are the most adaptable species this planet has ever produced. We even live in places that cockroaches will not.
It would take a lot more than anything humans could produce to make the planet uninhabitable for humans. Nature, on the other hand, is very efficient at wiping out entire species. The amount of energy in just a one kilometer wide asteroid is more energy than all the nuclear weapons on the planet is capable of producing.
It is complete hubris and abject ignorance to believe any single species can effect global climate, one way or the other.
I seriously doubt we could destroy ourselves. After all, we are the most adaptable species this planet has ever produced. We even live in places that cockroaches will not.
It would take a lot more than anything humans could produce to make the planet uninhabitable for humans. Nature, on the other hand, is very efficient at wiping out entire species. The amount of energy in just a one kilometer wide asteroid is more energy than all the nuclear weapons on the planet is capable of producing.
It is complete hubris and abject ignorance to believe any single species can effect global climate, one way or the other.
I'm not saying we are affecting the climate, I think that's a bunch of horse puckey. What I'm saying is that we humans can destroy ourselves, (plop a few nuclear weapons down, there's not going to be much of us left), but the earth will bounce back.
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