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No they have not. It was very revealing when the unions were campaigning for elimination of the immigration laws hoping they could recruit the cheap foreign labor to their unions that way and gain power.
Unions in the past were led by more intelligent types, they actually understood that unlimited immigration was about bringing wages down, but union leaders today are stupid.
Union in the past also tended to be smaller and focused on a single plant. The leader knew the workers and worked to promote safety and a fair wage. Today the union are just another massive company that exploits the worker for money. It has turned into another graft scam.
Whole lot of "arghle blarghle!" in this thread, and no one can counter the graphs posted a few posts above. Personal anecdotes mean nothing in a discussion like this.
The UAW Should be More Worried about Chihuahua than Chattanooga
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While the United Auto Workers is focused on its recent devastating defeat in Chattanooga, with its low wages and close proximity to the U.S., the UAW should be more concerned about what is south of the border than unionizing plants in the Southern U.S.
Union leaders are so busy lining their own pockets that they don't think about the consequences of their strong-arm tactics.
How exactly are these union leaders lining their pockets? For the record, this is the only VW plant in the world where the workers don`t have a voice and VW never threatened to leave. It was the governor that threatened the loss of jobs by pulling the state`s subsidy.
How exactly are these union leaders lining their pockets? For the record, this is the only VW plant in the world where the workers don`t have a voice and VW never threatened to leave. It was the governor that threatened the loss of jobs by pulling the state`s subsidy.
The workers were fools for believing it. I blame them, not the governor.
Anyone believing that a Republican governor would pull a subsidy for a major manufacturer like Volkswagen must have a grand total of 2 brain cells. No way would it happen. He wouldn't risk doing anything like that just because the plant went union unless the governor is a proponent of political suicide.
GM in Spring Hill is union, and they get whatever the hell they want from the state, county and municipality...like a boss.
The UAW leadership is extremely stupid. How smart was it of it to get on the side of the open borders crowd with it's insatiable lust for imported cheap labor?
I suspect the clowns thought the illegals would rush to sign up for the union and pay union dues out of their $6 an hour wages here. The union leaders are no better than the globalist politicians and their eagerness to put Americans out of work in favor of the cheap foreign labor should put them out of business for good.
If the UAW in any way compaigned, then, absolutely, yes.
If this is supposed to be a vote where nobody can influence anyone, then obviously, if the UAW said or did anything or was in any way involved, obviously it wasn't a fair election.
Which is why I questioned the morality, not the rules.
The rules are not fair nor are they moral.
If you are committed to the rules, which are stacked in favor of union power, rather than employee freedom, then you are, by definition, immoral.
The issue is not with ordinary influence. The issue is with a politician (who was supposed to stay out of private affairs) making a brazen threat that subsidies may be lifted for Volswagon. Obviously, this would understandably worry some workers, and bring to question the future security of their jobs if the vote went towards the UAW.
Clearly, folks are merely commenting based on their level, or lack of fanfare for unions in this country. In truth, this subject is not an organized labor popularity contest. It's a matter of local government intrusion in matters of private industry. I take it that a wide array of republicans are all for government molestation of private enterprise... So long as their views are represented first and foremost.
I'm hardly a UAW fan, or a fan of any 19th century mindset unions, but I'm also not a fan of politicians who mistake their role with that of corporate executives, and, in so doing, become shills for the corporation.
Corker's idiotic statements were truthfully, IMO, acting as a puppet for Nissan executives, because , with VW brass wanting a union, Nissan was no doubt, the sole party happy with this outcome.
"The sad thing is that the statements reflect sincere positions, driven by the universal complicity in governmental prostitution for corporate investment".
And yes, I copied my favorite line from this column. Comapring pols to prostitutes in tthis case, was spot on.
Yeah, the conduct of elected conservative officials was shameful and maybe illegal.
In terms of the UAW and the future of unions, it will be tough there needs to be a critical mass of union workers and unions need victories in terms of improving pay and benefits for workers.
Right now that is not the case, Only 7% of private sector workers are in a union.
It is so odd to me is that even though union members on average make more money( this is an objective fact http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.t02.htm) and have better benefits than most workers, but this is a negative during labor disputes.
The public seems to say hey I make crap wages and have crap benefits how dare these union workers try to get more for themselves.
It is very odd to hear the fact that because most people have crap wages and terrible benefits that some union workers in some labor negotiation/dispute has to get realistic about its demands.
I don't know how you overcome that impulse in the public.
In truth, this subject is not an organized labor popularity contest. It's a matter of local government intrusion in matters of private industry.
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, and VW execs publicly stated Corker was dead wrong. The work council has seats on the VW board, and they indicated this vote harms Tn's shot at a 2nd product line as they would likely not support it.
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The UAW Should be More Worried about Chihuahua than Chattanooga
, and VW execs publicly stated Corker was dead wrong. The work council has seats on the VW board, and they indicated this vote harms Tn's shot at a 2nd product line as they would likely not support it.
