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Old 02-17-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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Can't blame him I guess... he didn't have a 'choice'.

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Bryon Vassey entered the home of a family who called 911 for medical help after their schizophrenic child had an episode.

Rather than helping officers de-escalate the situation, Vassey is reported to have said “We don’t have time for this.”

Moments later he opened fire and executed the young boy, killing him as his parents screamed in shock.

Now, Vassey’s attorney is saying the officer “had no choice” but to shoot the child.


Cop ?Had No Choice? to Shoot and Kill Mentally Ill Child Because He Left His Taser Home?
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Can't blame him I guess... he didn't have a 'choice'.

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Bryon Vassey entered the home of a family who called 911 for medical help after their schizophrenic child had an episode.

Rather than helping officers de-escalate the situation, Vassey is reported to have said “We don’t have time for this.”

Moments later he opened fire and executed the young boy, killing him as his parents screamed in shock.

Now, Vassey’s attorney is saying the officer “had no choice” but to shoot the child.


Cop ?Had No Choice? to Shoot and Kill Mentally Ill Child Because He Left His Taser Home?
A different take from a REAL newspaper.

"Shortly after Vassey arrived at Vidal’s President Drive home, Vidal was stunned with a Taser by Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Samantha Lewis, Payne said. Payne said Boiling Spring Lakes Police Officer John Thomas charged Vidal, who was holding a pick. Vidal made an initial stabbing motion toward Thomas, but the strike attempt was blocked, Payne said. Thomas’ head and neck area was unprotected when Vidal made another motion toward the officer with the pick.
Vassey asked that Vidal be stunned again, but Lewis’ Taser malfunctioned, Payne said. That is when Vassey fired his gun."


"Payne said Thomas was wearing a body microphone during the incident. Moments after the shooting, as paramedics rushed into the house, Vassey turned to Thomas and said, “I had no choice,” Payne said.
Thomas responded, “I know, I know,” Payne said.
That same body microphone did not pick up Vassey saying “We don’t have time for this, Tase him” as Vidal’s family members allege, Payne said.


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Old 02-17-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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A different take from a REAL newspaper.

"Shortly after Vassey arrived at Vidal’s President Drive home, Vidal was stunned with a Taser by Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Samantha Lewis, Payne said. Payne said Boiling Spring Lakes Police Officer John Thomas charged Vidal, who was holding a pick. Vidal made an initial stabbing motion toward Thomas, but the strike attempt was blocked, Payne said. Thomas’ head and neck area was unprotected when Vidal made another motion toward the officer with the pick.
Vassey asked that Vidal be stunned again, but Lewis’ Taser malfunctioned, Payne said. That is when Vassey fired his gun."


"Payne said Thomas was wearing a body microphone during the incident. Moments after the shooting, as paramedics rushed into the house, Vassey turned to Thomas and said, “I had no choice,” Payne said.
Thomas responded, “I know, I know,” Payne said.
That same body microphone did not pick up Vassey saying “We don’t have time for this, Tase him” as Vidal’s family members allege, Payne said.


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Thanks for posting what actually happened and not what a cop hater wanted to happen.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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Always two sides to a story.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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Yeah it's funny how the story changes so suit the cop haters side.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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Sounds like a lot of attorney talk.


The 2 officers who were on the scene first did not feel the need to use lethal force on the teen. They had dealt with the teen (who was a very small boy) for quite a while before the last officer arrived who shot the boy.


Did the last officer fear for his life in such a way that he felt the only way to save his life was to execute the teen?

That's the question.


I remember this case from a while back. Will have to do some more research into the incident.
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Old 02-17-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: California
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Sounds like a lot of attorney talk.


The 2 officers who were on the scene first did not feel the need to use lethal force on the teen. They had dealt with the teen (who was a very small boy) for quite a while before the last officer arrived who shot the boy.


Did the last officer fear for his life in such a way that he felt the only way to save his life was to execute the teen?

That's the question.


I remember this case from a while back. Will have to do some more research into the incident.
As I remember the original story, the first two officers were on the floor fighting the kid, the kid was stabbing one officer with a screwdriver, the third officer shot the kid. It turned out the officer being stabbed was wearing a vest. The facts are that the parents had called the police because the kid had a weapon was violent and out of control and in this type of situation anything could happen. Police officers are human, they have to make split second decisions which can lead to someones injury or death, they don't just shoot someone and blow it off like it was no big deal.
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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It's a tragedy, but the cops' responsibility is to protect themselves first and foremost. Nobody really understands what it's like to be around someone with a severe mental illness like schizophrenia until they actually are. Schizophrenia is devastating without reason to the person suffering from it, their family, and society in general. The very nature of the disorder makes it impossible to leave the trust on the sufferer to take their meds and stay in their right mind.
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Always two sides to a story.
Usually three sides, the third being the truth.
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Old 02-17-2014, 02:41 PM
 
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Usually three sides, the third being the truth.
But "The Truth" usually doesn't get to tell their side. Not unless there's video recording documenting the situation of course.
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