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Old 02-18-2014, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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After the abuses we have seen by this president and his administration, I wouldn't blame you for thinking that every administrative agency has been turned into a political tool.
You want Obama to sign an executive order to abolish this 100 year law?

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The problem is because of the 1920 federal Maritime Act. It prevents foreign vessels from moving cargo from one U.S. port to another. It was designed to protect the U.S. shipping industry from foreign competition.
NJ salt shortage continues - New York News

Or do you want the GOP congress to do something about it?
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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Christie shows himself to be a typical Republican by trying to smuggle in salt on a foreign flag carrier thus cheating Americans of jobs. Quick action by HS busts up the clandestine off-shoring operation and exposes the Republican plot. The salt is likely now on a legal US flag carrier having been loaded by union dock workers and is on its way to New Jersey. Why won't Christie just play by the rules?
You have nicely summarized the true issue here.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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Salt contributes to global warming, it must be banned.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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They cannot find another ship, they cannot load it on a train, they cannot load it on trucks.

I hardly think the only transportation available is a foreign-flagged ship.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yes, why didn't the vessel simply put up the American flag?

Also, why would a vessel sail empty?
Like most of the world, the U.S. is not a " Flag of Convenience" state.
The flag pertains to the ownership of the ship/aircraft.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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Like most of the world, the U.S. is not a " Flag of Convenience" state.
The flag pertains to the ownership of the ship/aircraft.
America does not have vessels capable of transporting salt?
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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America does not have vessels capable of transporting salt?
From Maine to New Jersey, it's a 5 - 6 hour DRIVE. Put the salt on trucks.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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America does not have vessels capable of transporting salt?
Of course it does...

It's not clear why this salt was loaded on a foreign-flagged ship. Was it originally destined for Bermuda?
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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A tad more digging and I learned the salt originally arrived and was offloaded, in Maine, from a cargo ship from Chile. The only ship capable of carrying 40,000 tons of salt from Searsport, Maine to Newark was another foreign-flagged ship. Otherwise, it's going to take a series of barges and more time to transport to NJ.

Had NJ ordered the salt, the Chilean ship could have diverted to Newark.

The whole deal reminds me of how NJ ran out of gas after Sandy and requested and received a waiver for foreign-flagged ships from the gulf.

I got into the whole maritime history thing because of an interest in historical passenger ships.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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Roads are perfectly wet and clear here in NJ , dunno what you guys are complaining about ?

One thing i will say tho is they sure as hell did waste a **** load of salt. Makes you wonder what these people do all day knowing a big storm is coming , wouldnt you check salt levels etc and not wait last minute for more salt to come in lol .
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