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Old 02-20-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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What fascinates me, why don't gays have their own bakery's or businesses that cater to gays.

Why force a business to do what gays want? You will guarantee the worse service.

 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Protecting ones religious beliefs from discrimination is not dumb.
Hiding behind religion to discriminate is dumb, but lawyers are gonna make a lot of money off this stupid bill, so good for them.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I think another state passed something similar to this last week so this must be a trend that is catching on. I agree with this bill that if you are a business owner and believe in and live by your faith that you should be able to refuse service to whoever you want.


Arizona Senate: Business owners can cite religion to refuse service to gays
It will likely get tossed by the Courts if it even becomes law. The Kansas state House passed a similar bill a week or two ago, but it was DOA in the State Senate.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I think another state passed something similar to this last week so this must be a trend that is catching on. I agree with this bill that if you are a business owner and believe in and live by your faith that you should be able to refuse service to whoever you want.


Arizona Senate: Business owners can cite religion to refuse service to gays
And the Kansas bill is dead in the water the state senate won't go for it. The Tennessee bill lost all of it's sponsors before it could go to vote.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:14 AM
 
Location: USA
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Protecting ones religious beliefs from discrimination is not dumb.
Please.


What are you claiming? Christianity? I'd like to see you run that bill by Jesus...
 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I can't wait until the first liberal Christian business owner puts up a "NO HATEFUL REPUBLICANS ALLOWED" sign. The howling from you cons will be glorious. You people don't even accept the right of a business owner to keep his restaurant gun-free, yet now you demand the right to be able to declare "gay-free" zones. Hypocritical much?
 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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People who say these kinds of bills promote discrimination are wrong. These bills are being made to protect businesses and religious rights from discrimination.

No where does it say that a business can refuse service to a gay person just for being gay, they cannot hang up signs that say '' no gays allowed '' or anything like that. It simply says that a business owner can be protected for denying a special service (such as a cake for a gay wedding) on the basis of their religious values.

These kinds of bills are necessary as gay activsts are becoming more and more militant, and often do violate the Religious Rights of others.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Effing idiots just gave a green light for aspects of Shariah Law.
 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:19 AM
 
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I can't wait until the first liberal Christian business owner puts up a "NO HATEFUL REPUBLICANS ALLOWED" sign. The howling from you cons will be glorious. You people don't even accept the right of a business owner to keep his restaurant gun-free, yet now you demand the right to be able to declare "gay-free" zones. Hypocritical much?
Except that won't happen because the bill doesn't allow that.

Seriously have you guys even bothered to read it? What's with the hyperbole?
 
Old 02-20-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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People who say these kinds of bills promote discrimination are wrong. These bills are being made to protect businesses and religious rights from discrimination.

No where does it say that a business can refuse service to a gay person just for being gay, they cannot hang up signs that say '' no gays allowed '' or anything like that. It simply says that a business owner can be protected for denying a special service (such as a cake for a gay wedding) on the basis of their religious values.

These kinds of bills are necessary as gay activsts are becoming more and more militant, and often do violate the Religious Rights of others.
You don't prevent discrimination by writing laws to specifically allow discrimination.

If you can't operate a business because of your religious beliefs, DON'T OPEN A BUSINESS.
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