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Old 02-20-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Thanks for the links I asked for. I'll study them well and refine my opinion.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: it depends
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The cuts came out of Medicare Part C which were payments to insurance companies. This is Republicans running to the left of Democrats trying to inflate Medicare spending. The only ones to profit by this are the insurance companies.
You win the gold medal for creativity and consistency: there is never any problem with the "Affordable Care Act" that you cannot explain with some massively creative use of the language. Kudos to Borregokid.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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The 700 billion taken from Medicare Advantage plans has been a known fact since 2010. the alternate republican plan has the same cuts. that was one area that both republicans and democrats agreed on. Medicare advantage subsidies to private insurance companies was a big giveaway.

I looked at a Humana advantage plan this year and it paid my 165.00 medicare pt B deductable, a silver sneakers membership and my PCP visit was the same and that was for $0 plan premium outside my normal pt B medicare payment.

Once again the article is a right wing biased publication. You're gonna have to provide some actual proof that people are getting screwed on medicare advantage, which is still the best deal in the medicare system.

this is old news, repackaged and reformulated by Obamacare haters just to keep the hate on the front page through fear and paranoia. Just another coat of lipstick on a tea party pig.
If Obama care was so great why has the present had to change it 28 times
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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As Nancy said we had to pass it to know what was in it

Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It" - YouTube Dumber than Dumb.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Ban you imagine the outcry if a republican said that
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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If Obama care was so great why has the present had to change it 28 times
I've never said that Obamacare was so great. I said Medicare Advantage plans are still the best deal in medicare even with the cut in payments to the insurers, a program started in the mid 60s by LBJ.
Obamacare is still much better than the Republican alternative........Oh wait......the republicans have no alternatives except
"Sell insurance across state lines"....(republican code for deregulate and disband all the state insurance regulatory commissions)
"Tort Reform" (Republican code for removing any redress the common patient has for the hundreds of thousands of medical malpractice cases a year)

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Old 02-20-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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But someone did tell you, all you had to do was read it before you voted for it.
remember when Democrats mocked the idea of reading the bill by hiring a speed reader? Yeah, Democrats think our lives and the damages they are doing to the nation is a joke.

Why anyone votes for them is a mystery
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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I've never said that Obamacare was so great. I said Medicare Advantage plans are still the best deal in medicare even with the cut in payments to the insurers, a program started in the mid 60s by LBJ.
Obamacare is still much better than the Republican alternative........Oh wait......the republicans have no alternatives except
"Sell insurance across state lines"....(republican code for deregulate and disband all the state insurance oversight commissions)
"Tort Reform" (Republican code for removing any redress the common patient has for the hundreds of thousands of medical malpractice cases a year)
Actually, we will never know what they provide...since they are sitting on harry desk...never to see the light of day...
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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The 700 billion taken from Medicare Advantage plans has been a known fact since 2010. the alternate republican plan has the same cuts.
Actually no.. The Republican BUDGET proposal had the same cuts, but thats because IT WAS LAW.

Are you suggesting Republicans ignore the law?
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Old 02-20-2014, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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give me one link to an example of "Dems writing CMS". Just one. I think this is your secret fantasy.
It's in the linked article.
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