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Old 02-20-2014, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Yes, you guessed it. Michael Mann and his cohorts. They will do anything to "hide the decline" and prevent anyone but their lemmings from seeing their data. Even threatening violence and lawsuits. That's what happens when their government grants get threatened.

You really should read this slide show. It's not only informative, it's also amusing how the AGW alarmists are afraid that the truth will be exposed.

http://www.nocapandtrade.com/documen...aelsSlides.pdf
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:15 PM
 
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Yes it will be!!!!
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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Whoever created the pdf missed a great example of the current state of pal-reviewed science:

From: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL
Date: Thu Jul 8 16:30:16 2004
Mike,
Only have it in the pdf form. FYI ONLY - don't pass on. Relevant paras are the last 2 in section 4 on p13.
As I said it is worded carefully due to Adrian knowing Eugenia for years. He knows the're wrong,
but he succumbed to her almost pleading with him to tone it down as it might affect her proposals in the future!
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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There's far more politics than science in the 'global warming' crowd.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:03 AM
 
Location: texas
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Originally Posted by Ultor View Post
Whoever created the pdf missed a great example of the current state of pal-reviewed science:

From: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL
Date: Thu Jul 8 16:30:16 2004
Mike,
Only have it in the pdf form. FYI ONLY - don't pass on. Relevant paras are the last 2 in section 4 on p13.
As I said it is worded carefully due to Adrian knowing Eugenia for years. He knows the're wrong,
but he succumbed to her almost pleading with him to tone it down as it might affect her proposals in the future!
Do you know how easy it would have been to create this^^^


At least post a link to the careful eye that got ahold of it...
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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Sigh.

Another vast global conspiracy without any basis in fact.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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Do you know how easy it would have been to create this^^^


At least post a link to the careful eye that got ahold of it...
It's in the OP on page 9 of the .pdf.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:09 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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That's the problem with global warming "scientists"; they aren't scientists. Science is about creating a hypothesis and setting out to support it or not support it. These people have an ideology that they are setting out to prove.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:10 AM
 
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Sigh.

Another vast global conspiracy without any basis in fact.
LOL!!!

It's wholly factual.

Every one of these people who has been the advocates of 'global warming' has been on a political campaign to silence critics, hide their data and work, and manipulate media.

None of them have been honest in the slightest.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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That's the problem with global warming "scientists"; they aren't scientists. Science is about creating a hypothesis and setting out to support it or not support it. These people have an ideology that they are setting out to prove.
I think it's far less "ideology" than "keeping the money flowing".

Yes, some of them are ideologues and search for things to support what they want to believe. But I believe most of them are far more concerned with keeping the money flowing and not being disgraced by having the extent they have been dishonest revealed.
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