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Old 03-15-2014, 10:03 AM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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I think it's the fault of his parents, they need to push him out because some people will just take whatever they can get for free, they have no real innate 'pride' in the good sense of the word - the 'sponge' analogy works well here.

Looks like his plan is to take over the house once my mom becomes older.
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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Looks like his plan is to take over the house once my mom becomes older.
If he's willing to take physical care of her, that's not a bad plan. Someone will have to, and I suspect she'd rather have that arrangement in her own home rather than move to a nursing home.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:12 AM
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If he's willing to take physical care of her, that's not a bad plan. Someone will have to, and I suspect she'd rather have that arrangement in her own home rather than move to a nursing home.

Yeah she gets around pretty good now in her early 60's but that may not be the case in 20 years
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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It's the cost of living/thread

My first apartment was $350 a month for a 2 BR that I shared with a buddy. This was less than 20 years ago. Those same apartments are $795 a month now. I made $7.50 an hour working night security while going to school. That same job pays $10 an hour now................you do the math
Everything is just so expensive now. Minimum wage has never been a livable wage, but it was not that uncommon to to find entry level jobs that started at almost twice the minimum wage 20 years ago. Those jobs don't exist anymore. Add to this the fact that you can't be a functioning member of society without a cell phone and internet access anymore as well. That's another $100 worth of bills that didn't even exist before. My roommate and I shared a $12 a month phone bill for a land line back in the day. It's easy to see why people can't make it on their own without a decent job these days.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:45 AM
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It's the cost of living/thread

My first apartment was $350 a month for a 2 BR that I shared with a buddy. This was less than 20 years ago. Those same apartments are $795 a month now. I made $7.50 an hour working night security while going to school. That same job pays $10 an hour now................you do the math
Everything is just so expensive now. Minimum wage has never been a livable wage, but it was not that uncommon to to find entry level jobs that started at almost twice the minimum wage 20 years ago. Those jobs don't exist anymore. Add to this the fact that you can't be a functioning member of society without a cell phone and internet access anymore as well. That's another $100 worth of bills that didn't even exist before. My roommate and I shared a $12 a month phone bill for a land line back in the day. It's easy to see why people can't make it on their own without a decent job these days.

You made me start crying?
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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Others are living off government which acts like parents ;so I don't see the point. Is Op and others saying we should kick them all out?
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Old 03-15-2014, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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It's the cost of living/thread

My first apartment was $350 a month for a 2 BR that I shared with a buddy. This was less than 20 years ago. Those same apartments are $795 a month now. I made $7.50 an hour working night security while going to school. That same job pays $10 an hour now................you do the math
Everything is just so expensive now. Minimum wage has never been a livable wage, but it was not that uncommon to to find entry level jobs that started at almost twice the minimum wage 20 years ago. Those jobs don't exist anymore. Add to this the fact that you can't be a functioning member of society without a cell phone and internet access anymore as well. That's another $100 worth of bills that didn't even exist before. My roommate and I shared a $12 a month phone bill for a land line back in the day. It's easy to see why people can't make it on their own without a decent job these days.
And in my area, you can't even find a studio for $795 (might be a handful within an hour) and 2 bedrooms start at 1300 (and that wouldn't be near the subway and probably in a iffy area). I live with roommates despite making a very middle-class salary because a 1 bedroom that meets my fairly low standards (safe area, within 30 minutes of work in the suburbs, laundry in the building, and decent parking availability either in a driveway or easily found on street) would be a minimum of $1200 plus utilities.

In 2000, my first job paid the same (have talked about it with former coworkers) and you could find a 1 bedroom for $800 - or less! And now that same job ALSO requires internet access and/or smart phone access at home but doesn't pay for it.

Cost of living is outpacing salary - particularly in big cities (where most of the job growth is).
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Old 03-15-2014, 03:41 PM
 
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Everything is just so expensive now.
Wait til you see the food price inflation emerge in the next few months.
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Old 03-15-2014, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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And in my area, you can't even find a studio for $795 (might be a handful within an hour) and 2 bedrooms start at 1300 (and that wouldn't be near the subway and probably in a iffy area). I live with roommates despite making a very middle-class salary because a 1 bedroom that meets my fairly low standards (safe area, within 30 minutes of work in the suburbs, laundry in the building, and decent parking availability either in a driveway or easily found on street) would be a minimum of $1200 plus utilities.

In 2000, my first job paid the same (have talked about it with former coworkers) and you could find a 1 bedroom for $800 - or less! And now that same job ALSO requires internet access and/or smart phone access at home but doesn't pay for it.

Cost of living is outpacing salary - particularly in big cities (where most of the job growth is).
I have seen cheap studio apartments in Chicago for as little as $575 a month. Relatively safe and somewhat desirable locations too. These are usually quite small, but if you're just starting out, you don't need much space. Leave some crap at mom and dad's until you can afford something bigger.

As for entry level jobs, $12/hr might be about average, possibly a bit less for some entry level blue collar jobs. It's not hard to find those types of jobs north of the city. Unfortunately, the concentration of blue collar jobs have pulled huge volumes of illegal migrants, who in turn, have depressed/held down the wages.
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Old 03-15-2014, 05:50 PM
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And in my area, you can't even find a studio for $795 (might be a handful within an hour) and 2 bedrooms start at 1300 (and that wouldn't be near the subway and probably in a iffy area). I live with roommates despite making a very middle-class salary because a 1 bedroom that meets my fairly low standards (safe area, within 30 minutes of work in the suburbs, laundry in the building, and decent parking availability either in a driveway or easily found on street) would be a minimum of $1200 plus utilities.

In 2000, my first job paid the same (have talked about it with former coworkers) and you could find a 1 bedroom for $800 - or less! And now that same job ALSO requires internet access and/or smart phone access at home but doesn't pay for it.

Cost of living is outpacing salary - particularly in big cities (where most of the job growth is).

what about an efficiency apartment?
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