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Old 02-24-2014, 08:11 PM
 
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"Gun rights" play to a fantasy of secession and armed rebellion. It is rooted in Southern conservative culture. Mix a little bit of Civil War confederate resentment of the North with white resentment of a browning nation that has a black president.

 
Old 02-24-2014, 08:24 PM
 
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the 2nd amendment protects the other 35.
 
Old 02-24-2014, 08:25 PM
 
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"Gun rights" play to a fantasy of secession and armed rebellion. It is rooted in Southern conservative culture. Mix a little bit of Civil War confederate resentment of the North with white resentment of a browning nation that has a black president.
lol you made me spit out my water almost.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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Harrier doesn't own a gun.

Your obsession is definitely creepy.

Quit being so ignorant and become educated
Better arm yourself Harrier. You don't want to be the only guy in line at the Tasty Freeze who ISN'T packin', do you?

I sure as hell don't.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Some of you guys like your guns just a liiiiiiitle bit too much. Guns are a tool, not a freaking lifestyle. This gun fetish some of you guys have is just plain nuts.

Our Declaration of Independence states that we are all created equal.

The Second Amendment keeps us that way.
 
Old 02-25-2014, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Does having a gun make you feel like a big man? Why do you guys always hide behind your guns? Are you compensating for something? Most Americans don't agree with you. Over 80% of Americans want reasonable gun control. Nobody is talking about "grabbing your guns". You guys have been brainwashed by these extremist right-wing radio yakkers and cranks who have filled your heads with this paranoid nonsense. Get real. Your gun fetish is just creepy.
Gun Control Polls Show Longterm Decline In Support, Despite Columbine Bump

People care more about jobs and the economy than they do gun control:

http://pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm

Oh, and....

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gall...ortant-problem

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Only 4 percent of Americans think guns and gun control are an important problem facing the country, according to Gallup, and far more Americans are concerned about the economy, unemployment and the federal debt.
The only people keeping the gun control debate alive is the media. If the media stops talking about it, no one gives a crap anymore.

Ahem...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/167135/am...up%20Headlines

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Americans' Dissatisfaction With Gun Laws Highest Since 2001 Increase in proportion who are dissatisfied and want less strict laws

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Old 02-25-2014, 01:13 AM
 
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Our Declaration of Independence states that we are all created equal.

The Second Amendment keeps us that way.
Napolean said: "Gunpowder makes all men the same height".
 
Old 06-10-2014, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Become educated about what? The Second Amendment? It doesn't exclude reasonable gun control. I'm not obsessed with guns, you guys are. You think everyone is out to get you and you want to start a revolution because you think the government is after your guns and something...
The Second Amendment is a constitutional right, whether you like it or not.

Do you feel the same way about the 15th Amendment?

Do you believe that black Americans who wish to vote are obsessed, and think that everyone is out to get them, and they want to start a revolution because they think that the government is after their right to vote and something?

See how that works?
 
Old 06-10-2014, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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. Guns are a tool, not a freaking lifestyle.
Yes - they are a tool.

The 2nd Amendment exists to uphold the U.S. Constitution.

Without the 2nd Amendment, the rest of the Constitution is rendered meaningless - just as Democrats like it.
 
Old 06-10-2014, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You also conveniently left out the whole sentence in your citing of the Constitution----I'll give you a refresher:

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Kinda' brings it more into focus, dude.
Allow Harrier to repost something that he wrote in another thread - since it addresses what you mentioned.

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Read the entire amendment.

" A well regulated militia, necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

Now, if you claim that well regulated means gun control, then you have to answer who should be doing the regulating.

If your answer is the federal government, then you have just made the 2nd Amendment meaningless.

Why.

Because the purpose of the militia is to keep a state free, and there is only one entity who can specifically intrude upon the soveriegnty of the several states, and that is the federal government.

The meaning of well regulated is something elsr then.

What is it?

It is found in the expression of the right.

"A well regulated miltia, necessary for the security of a free state" gives the reason, and "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" explains how that is to be accomplished
Well regulated means that the militia is adequately provisioned by its members - the people.

Think of it as regulating a room's temperature - a law isn't being passed to maintain 70 degrees, but steps are being taken to keep it that way.

The 2nd Amendment is written so that an adequate militia will be prepared to defend the state against the federal government if neccesary.

Look up your state constitution or codes - chances are that they include language that you are a member of the state militia.

Don't you want your militia to be well regulated?

If so, then don't infringe on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
Shooting At Seattle Pacific University

You really need to become educated, dude.
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