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Congress is not needed really. One option is for the state legislatures to request a convention this would take 34 states and then have the states ratify the amendment this would take 308 state. Currently the GOP controls about 30 state legislatures and 31 states have bans on SSM (notwithstanding any recent federal court rulings)
Man. Such delusion. How much medication does one need to take in order to believe that can really happen?
Congress is not needed really. One option is for the state legislatures to request a convention this would take 34 states and then have the states ratify the amendment this would take 308 state. Currently the GOP controls about 30 state legislatures and 31 states have bans on SSM (notwithstanding any recent federal court rulings)
You wouldn't come close to getting 38 states to pass this or even the 34 states to propose it.....
I must have been sick the day they taught that the Attorney General controls federal judges.
AG doesn't directly but that isn't the point of the message.
Holder takes his marching orders from Obama and thus is signaling to the extent possible this administration will back state AGs who choose not to defend state SSM bans. It means among other things you will see more of what happened after the Utah decision came out and the governor of that state said it would not follow the ruling. Holder came out and said the federal government *WOULD* recognize same sex marriages from Utah regardless. That sort of thing does not come from a functionary no matter how high, but from the highest office.
As one has said before, stick a fork in it, the thing is done.
It is going to take some hefty judicial lifting to get Kennedy and the other justices that concurred in the DOMA majority to change their minds. The *only* hope those could have for the SCTOUS changing it's mind is for one or two of the liberal justices to retire or die, but even then that wouldn't do any good until after 2016 as Obama and the senate are sure to appoint replacements along the lines of what they have been doing. Besides unless lower federal courts somehow tie one or more of the cases working their way back to the Court, they are likely to have Ohio, Virginia, Oklahoma on their steps by later this year with arguments scheduled for 2015.
Finally must say don't know why persons keep looking to the GOP to somehow derail this train of acceptance of homosexuality including gay marriage. The Republican party has more openly gay members of Congress than Democrats, and more still are running for both that body and in local elections coming this November.
While often associated with the "religious right" persons tend to forget the Republican party has historically been about pro-business, less government regulations and taxes, along with of course wealth. Something that appeals to many gay men especially those in seats of power in areas of finance, commerce, industry and now that DOMA is gone we are finding they were there all along in the military, judiciary and high level government appointments.
It was gay Republicans that funded and lead the case which struck down DODT and lots of their money is going to funding the various battles over "marriage equality".
There is also the fact many straight Republicans including those with wealth and or in positions of power (such as Dick Cheney) have gay children, grand children or other family members. Many of such persons quite frankly are not disowning their gay relations nor wiling to see them, their partners and or children discriminated against any longer.
Please name these openly gay republicans in congress.
There are 6 openly gay members of congress all of them Democrats.
Mark Pocan Wisconsin
Kyrsten Sinema Arizona
Sean Patrick Maloney New York
Mark Takano California
David Cicilline of Rhode Island
Jared Polis of Colorado
Please name these openly gay republicans in congress.
There are 6 openly gay members of congress all of them Democrats.
Mark Pocan Wisconsin
Kyrsten Sinema Arizona
Sean Patrick Maloney New York
Mark Takano California
David Cicilline of Rhode Island
Jared Polis of Colorado
Whoops, sorry thought the one from California and Colorado were Republicans, my bad.
much as i think its disgusting, my only beef is calling it marriage. remove that and replace it with civil union (do that for all marriages, hetero and homo).
homosexual money is green, they dont shower with me, so i dont really care.
if they are religious, they know what they are doing is a sin. its not for me to judge them, thats for G*d to decide.
Congress is not needed really. One option is for the state legislatures to request a convention this would take 34 states and then have the states ratify the amendment this would take 308 state. Currently the GOP controls about 30 state legislatures and 31 states have bans on SSM (notwithstanding any recent federal court rulings)
More delusions.
Nothing in the 225 years of this nation's history since the Constitution went into effect has prompted the states to call a Constitution convention.
Not the Whiskey Rebellion or the Sedition Act.
Not the Nullification Crisis or the Civil War.
Not the Gilded Age or the Great Depression.
And yet you wallow in the fantasy that the states might call a Constitutional Convention over... marriage?
Did you happen to notice the list of states that would never - your reality-free fantasies aside - approve such an amendment? That still stands. The number of states is also more than would be required to block such a convention. Notice that? Of course you didn't.
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Finally must say don't know why persons keep looking to the GOP to somehow derail this train of acceptance of homosexuality including gay marriage. The Republican party has more openly gay members of Congress than Democrats, and more still are running for both that body and in local elections coming this November.
Another reality-free post.
Name an out gay Republican in Congress. Go ahead, just one. Well?
Have fun googling. There isn't one. Not one.
But there several Democrats, among them Tammy Baldwin, United States Senator from Wisconsin.
AG doesn't directly but that isn't the point of the message.
Holder takes his marching orders from Obama and thus is signaling to the extent possible this administration will back state AGs who choose not to defend state SSM bans. It means among other things you will see more of what happened after the Utah decision came out and the governor of that state said it would not follow the ruling. Holder came out and said the federal government *WOULD* recognize same sex marriages from Utah regardless. That sort of thing does not come from a functionary no matter how high, but from the highest office.
Not exactly true. The federal government would not give federal benefits to same-sex couples married in Utah because it is not legal there, however they would provide federal benefits to those who live in Utah, but were legally married in states that recognize same-sex marriage. This was something that basically came as a result of the DOMA ruling.
I don't think thiss is really about gay marriage. This is about a test run of the system of liberal activist federal judge and courts that Obama has stacked. If their push for gay marriage is successful, the liberals will try to use these courts to implement liberalism in illegal immigration, gun control, and EPA restrictions.
A judge who rules in favor of gay marriage is a liberal and certainly will rule in favor of gun control and try to protect illegal aliens. People are short sighted. It is NOT about fighting gay marriage. Gay marriage is only one item in the liberal package. It is fighting the liberal package in general that matters.
I don't think thiss is really about gay marriage. This is about a test run of the system of liberal activist federal judge and courts that Obama has stacked. If their push for gay marriage is successful, the liberals will try to use these courts to implement liberalism in illegal immigration, gun control, and EPA restrictions.
A judge who rules in favor of gay marriage is a liberal and certainly will rule in favor of gun control and try to protect illegal aliens. People are short sighted. It is NOT about fighting gay marriage. Gay marriage is only one item in the liberal package. It is fighting the liberal package in general that matters.
Baby Obama hatched this master plan while at kindergarten in Kenya.
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