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Old 03-03-2014, 02:54 PM
 
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WTC 7

the suits got away with one..

 
Old 03-03-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Dispelling the CIA-Bin Laden Myth | Fox News
 
Old 03-03-2014, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Uh . . . What evidence did the Government have that implicated Osama Bin Laden in the 9-11 catastrophe?
His own repeated confessions that he was responsible, as well as the testimony of the surviving conspirators, primarily Ramzi Bin Alshib and Khalid Sheik Muhammad.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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How many sets of books do the CIA keep?

"These two men oversaw the disbursement for all American funds to the anti-Soviet resistance. Both flatly denied that any CIA funds ever went to bin Laden."

Now, there's a real reliable source!

Dispelling the CIA-Bin Laden Myth | Fox News

Fox News is the CIA arm that deals with indigenous idiots.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Many NSA employees bet short on certain airline stocks a week before the event.
false

stock futures...yep...people betting on companies like american airline losing:

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The Dallas Morning News
September 8, 2001, Saturday
American Airlines Warns Investors of Expected Deficit
BYLINE: By Terry Maxon

AMR Corp. warned investors Friday that it would lose a lot more money this quarter than last quarter and would have a "significant" fourth-quarter deficit.
If the losses materialize as expected, it will mark the first time since 1993 that AMR has posted a full-year loss. It will also be the first time since 1992 that AMR has lost money in every quarter.
AMR, parent of American Airlines Inc. and TWA Airlines LLC, said it was grounding another five Boeing 727s early in response to poor demand. That means that its entire Boeing 727 fleet will be retired by the end of 2002 -- a year ahead of the original schedule.
Since early 2001, AMR said, it has cut its capital spending budget by nearly $ 1.2 million for this year and next.
"We'll continue to take prudent steps consistent with this very tough operating climate," said Tom Horton, AMR's chief financial officer, in a statement. "American's financial strength and flexibility are important assets at a time like this."
AMR made a less drastic warning Aug. 13 when it said it expected to lose money for the third quarter and full year 2001 "if current economic conditions persist."
Airline analyst Ray Neidl with ABN Amro Securities LLC said he was struck by the firmness of AMR's warning Friday, without the ambivalence of earlier warnings.
"They're more or less throwing in the towel and saying they're seeing no changes through the end of the year," Mr. Neidl said.
AMR shares closed down $ 1 to $ 30.15, off 3.2 percent in trading Friday on the New York Stock Exchange, and most other airline shares also finished down.
Mr. Neidl said he expects other airlines to issue similar warnings in the next few weeks as the third quarter shudders to a close.
Most airlines have warned that they have seen a sharp drop in the number of high-dollar business travelers, the ones that buy the most expensive first-class and coach tickets. Continental Airlines Inc. said last week that the revenue it received last month declined 12 to 14 percent per seat mile.
At the same time, high jet fuel prices and rising labor costs have increased the airlines' expenses.
Traffic has remained at or near last year's levels, with leisure travelers lured by continual fare sales this summer. However, Mr. Neidl said he's worried that consumers will quit responding to the fare sales.
"That's when airline profits could really start taking a whack," Mr. Neidl said. "I'm not sure we're going to reach that point, but that's the thing that worries me going forward."
In the second quarter ended June 30, AMR lost $ 105 million before special items, or $ 507 million including write-offs from decreased value of assets, primarily airplanes. It lost $ 43 million in the first quarter.
This year's losses will break a long winning streak for the Fort Worth-based carrier, which earned $ 813 million last year and more than $ 5 billion between 1996 and 2000.
After Friday's warning, airline analyst Michael J. Linenberg of Merrill Lynch Global Securities lowered his estimates for AMR.
Mr. Linenberg, who had predicted a third-quarter loss for AMR of 70 cents a share, now is predicting a loss of $ 1.10 a share. For the fourth quarter, he's predicting the airline will lose $ 1.38 a share, down from 30 cents a share. For the full year excluding the special items, he is predicting a loss of $ 3.45 per share, compared with his previous estimate of $ 1.95 a share. "And I'm not the lowest guy on the Street," Mr. Linenberg said.
Each penny per share represents about $ 46 million to $ 47 million, making his prediction for a full-year loss of around $ 530 million excluding the special items.
Mr. Linenberg said he believes AMR has begun accruing expenses for its new pilots contract, now under negotiation, and for Transport Workers Union contracts that are up for approval by mechanics, ground workers and others.
In addition, the integration of TWA Airlines into American may be more costly than executives planned, further increasing AMR's expenses, he said.
AMR said since last spring, it has decided to retire 41 airplanes early. Its revised estimate is that American and TWA will have the same capacity combined in 2001 as last year, and capacity will decline nearly 1.5 percent next year.
When the year began, American had expected to expand its capacity by 3 percent in 2001.
the first time since 1993 that AMR has posted a full-year loss"

gee I wonder why people were betting AA would drop
 
Old 03-03-2014, 04:46 PM
 
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His own repeated confessions that he was responsible, as well as the testimony of the surviving conspirators, primarily Ramzi Bin Alshib and Khalid Sheik Muhammad.
Records and doubles, doubles and records.

Same as at Sandy Hook.

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Old 03-03-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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Because all the actual evidence is on our side.
"Evidence" is manufactured and destroyed every day.

There is even a thing called pre-spoliated evidence (more stupidly sophisticated than flash paper), evidence that was required to be there, but never was, in the first instance. I've run into this one, where the Government was forced to admit in their defense that since the statutory requirement for the evidence was never met, how can the court demand, now, production of said documentary evidence. The Government thinks it can win this case because plaintiff will be unable to prove "willfulness" on the part of the Government, in their not having created the documents. They believe that you can't prove motive simply by gains derived from violation of statute. The Government believes that it takes a confession to prove "willfulness".

And, waterboarding a confession out of a government employee, has yet to have been approved by any U.S. Court.

The Government is trying to get this case dismissed before the question of waterboarding government terrorists rears its ugly head.

I'm looking for a conviction by default, on the basis of statutory "neglect".

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Old 03-03-2014, 05:32 PM
 
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Because all the actual evidence is on our side.
Please define "our" when you refer to "our side".

Be careful you don't commit ouricide.
 
Old 03-03-2014, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Records and doubles, doubles and records.

Same as at Sandy Hook.
oh no...not another conspiracy from the nut cases

now you are saying sandyhook was a conspiracy??

you guys really take the cake
 
Old 03-03-2014, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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"Evidence" is manufactured and destroyed every day.

There is even a thing called pre-spoliated evidence (more stupidly sophisticated than flash paper), evidence that was required to be there, but never was, in the first instance. I've run into this one, where the Government was forced to admit in their defense that since the statutory requirement for the evidence was never met, how can the court demand, now, production of said documentary evidence. The Government thinks it can win this case because plaintiff will be unable to prove "willfulness" on the part of the Government, in their not having created the documents. They believe that you can't prove motive simply by gains derived from violation of statute. The Government believes that it takes a confession to prove "willfulness".

And, waterboarding a confession out of a government employee, has yet to have been approved by any U.S. Court.

The Government is trying to get this case dismissed before the question of waterboarding government terrorists rears its ugly head.

I'm looking for a conviction by default, on the basis of statutory "neglect".
waterboarding is not torture
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