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Old 03-01-2014, 03:43 PM
 
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Where's the rest of that exchange?

All that clip shows is Romney walking back his assertion that Russia was the " greatest geopolitical threat to the US"

That wasn't true when Romney said it (which is why he had to clarify himself in that debate) and it isn't true today.


You are a little muddled. Obama's campaign rhetoric blurred the lines of what geo-political foe meant to score political points - forcing Romney to be more specific for the laymen.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...opolitical-fo/



If Romney is wrong, then who is a bigger geo-political opponent than Russia in terms of opposing US interests in the UN and through their actions?

Perhaps you could make an argument for another country or even the US itself (we shoot ourselves in the foot with Bush and Obama's Afghanistan escalation and massive drones).

...but, Obama dismissed Russia out of hand - mocked it as 1980s foreign policy.


Romney was correct to assert that Russia is a significant geo-political opponent of the US.

Obama was wrong to dismiss this as 1980s thinking of the past.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:47 PM
 
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Too bad Candy Crowley isn't posting here.

She would be busy defending Obama.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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We should invade Russia! Oh wait, we don't have a warmongering Republican as president, nevermind.
Selective memory or lack of knowledge? Obama wanted to strike Syria without passing it through Congress. He didn't think he needed anyone's approval.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Selective memory or lack of knowledge? Obama wanted to strike Syria without passing it through Congress. He didn't think he needed anyone's approval.
No, that was the threat he made, I don't recall us actually invading Syria, but I do remember Putin being forced to call the US's bluff and intervened to prevent a US strike.
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:56 PM
 
Location: The Village
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Selective memory or lack of knowledge? Obama wanted to strike Syria without passing it through Congress. He didn't think he needed anyone's approval.
Not true/
"President Barack Obama tried Tuesday to sell a military intervention he never wanted to an American public that opposes it, telling the nation that he needed authorization to attack Syria as leverage in a newly emerged diplomatic opening from Russia." Obama says U.S. ideals and security at stake in Syria - CNN.com
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:01 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Today's Russia isn't the same as the USSR because the USSR no longer exists, that died when communism fell in Russia and it was replaced with a Russian version of American right wing politics.

The Democrats approved Bush's warmongering because they were given false information from the Bush administration.
It seems you're never tired of being wrong. The administration was given false information about Iraq by the CIA. Yes, I firmly believe Bush pushed for the Iraq war based solely on the need to finish what daddy started. This doesn't mean that you can invent history.
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:05 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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softblueyz said: Selective memory or lack of knowledge? Obama wanted to strike Syria without passing it through Congress. He didn't think he needed anyone's approval.
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No, that was the threat he made, I don't recall us actually invading Syria, but I do remember Putin being forced to call the US's bluff and intervened to prevent a US strike.
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Not true/
"President Barack Obama tried Tuesday to sell a military intervention he never wanted to an American public that opposes it, telling the nation that he needed authorization to attack Syria as leverage in a newly emerged diplomatic opening from Russia." Obama says U.S. ideals and security at stake in Syria - CNN.com

You all can thank libertarians and independents who screamed the loudest against a Syria intervention.


Anyway, I'm pretty much done with this topic. WE are rehashing things that are historically dead now. Give Obama his due, because well into his second term he now owns all of it.
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:10 PM
 
Location: The Village
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You all can thank libertarians and independents who screamed the loudest against a Syria intervention.
Yes,I thank them for keeping us out of that mess and brokering a deal to destroy Syria's chemical weapons.
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:12 PM
 
Location: NJ and Florida
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The world has no respect or fear of the United States since Obama became president.. He apologizes for America.. which makes us weak and naive to the world.
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The world has no respect or fear of the United States since Obama became president.. He apologizes for America.. which makes us weak and naive to the world.
That's just opinion, the fact is that we have very little ability to really do anything whether it's Syria or Iran, we have military forces in 2 countries not that we would be dumb enough to get involved in the first place.
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