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Old 03-06-2014, 01:30 AM
 
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It's man-contributed global warming and climate change.

Yes, adding CO2 does contribute (however insignificant) to climate change, and so does paving asphalt.

Also, it should be well known that climate models are in their infancy. I would not treat them as reliable.

Finally, this is becoming my favorite phrase:

"Man is causing uncertain effects of uncertain quantities on climate"



Feel free to try and dispute these points.
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Old 03-06-2014, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Over 80 current members of the Royal Society hold Noble Prizes in Science. Members of the society have included most of the worlds greatest scientists raging from Sir Issac Newton through to Albert Einstein through to Stephen Hawking.

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It is certain that increased greenhouse gas emissions from the burning of fossil fuels and from land use change lead to a warming of climate, and it is very likely that these green house gases are the dominant cause of the global warming that has been taking place over the last 50 years.

Whilst the extent of climate change is often expressed in a single figure – global temperature – the effects of climate change (such as temperature, precipitation and the frequency of extreme weather events) will vary greatly from place to place.

Increasing atmospheric CO2 also leads to ocean acidification which risks profound impacts on many marine ecosystems and in turn the societies which depend on them.

The Society has worked on the issue of climate change for many years to further the understanding of this issue. These activities have been informed by decades of publicly available, peer-reviewed studies by thousands of scientists across a wide range of disciplines. Climate science, like any other scientific discipline, develops through vigorous debates between experts, but there is an overwhelming consensus regarding its fundamentals. Climate science has a firm basis in physics and is supported by a wealth of evidence from real world observations.

Climate change | Royal Society
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Old 03-06-2014, 04:36 AM
 
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It's man-contributed global warming and climate change.

Yes, adding CO2 does contribute (however insignificant) to climate change, and so does paving asphalt.

Also, it should be well known that climate models are in their infancy. I would not treat them as reliable.

Finally, this is becoming my favorite phrase:

"Man is causing uncertain effects of uncertain quantities on climate"



Feel free to try and dispute these points.
Well, the real killer isn't CO2. It's all the methane gas that have been trapped in glaciers in the arctic regions that are now being released by the melting of these glaciers.

But never mind, god created this planet for us to rape and consume all we want, yes?
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Old 03-06-2014, 04:36 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Over 80 current members of the Royal Society hold Noble Prizes in Science. Members of the society have included most of the worlds greatest scientists raging from Sir Issac Newton through to Albert Einstein through to Stephen Hawking.
Having a "Nobel Prize" means nothing. Even one like Barack Obama was awarded a Nobel Prize!

There are many notable scientists that reject man caused climate change, and even one of the original founders of "Green Peace" has come out recently and said it was a hoax!
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Old 03-06-2014, 04:40 AM
 
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Having a "Nobel Prize" means nothing. Even one like Barack Obama was awarded a Nobel Prize!

There are many notable scientists that reject man caused climate change, and even one of the original founders of "Green Peace" has come out recently and said it was a hoax!
Well, you're confusing nobel prize with nobel peace prize.
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Old 03-06-2014, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Having a "Nobel Prize" means nothing. Even one like Barack Obama was awarded a Nobel Prize!
The peace prize is slightly different to a science prize, the Royal Society being a Scientific organisation dating back to 1660

History of the Royal Society | Royal Society

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There are many notable scientists that reject man caused climate change, and even one of the original founders of "Green Peace" has come out recently and said it was a hoax!
The notable scientists of the Royal Society has stated that there is overwhelming consensus regarding this issue and the Royal Society has been in this position before, namely in relation to one of it's fellows called Charles Darwin, whose theories were also questioned.

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Old 03-06-2014, 05:35 AM
 
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It's man-contributed global warming and climate change.

Yes, adding CO2 does contribute (however insignificant) to climate change, and so does paving asphalt.

Also, it should be well known that climate models are in their infancy. I would not treat them as reliable.

Finally, this is becoming my favorite phrase:

"Man is causing uncertain effects of uncertain quantities on climate"
Feel free to try and dispute these points.
Trying to change peoples opinions on Global warming is a rather futile affair as most people have made up their minds on the issue one way or the other, about the only thing i can do is post credible data from credible sources (IMO)as i believe people will derive some pleasure in reading the links, for those thinking the Earth is warming up= enjoy
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...l_warming.html

Climate Change Facts: Answers to Common Questions | Climate Change | US EPA

http://www.policymic.com/articles/78...re-the-results

Climate Change: Consensus

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring...al-warming.php
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Here in Europe it is spring already, weeks too early. The winter was very wet and windy (monster waves literally devouring beaches along the Atlantic coasts), but mild.
California on the other hand is having a severe drought I read somewhere. In other parts of North America the winter is very stubborn. Australia is also experiencing extreme weather.

The climate is changing, but we can't really seem to predict yet where and how. The whole climate system of the Earth seems rather dynamic and we don't know all mechanisms. So predicting developments is more like playing the lottery
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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It's man-contributed global warming and climate change.

Yes, adding CO2 does contribute (however insignificant) to climate change, and so does paving asphalt.

Also, it should be well known that climate models are in their infancy. I would not treat them as reliable.

Finally, this is becoming my favorite phrase:

"Man is causing uncertain effects of uncertain quantities on climate"



Feel free to try and dispute these points.
Humans can, and do, effect their local environment, but have no impact globally. So your phrase "Man is causing uncertain effects of uncertain quantities on climate" is not true. Humans are certainly causing an effect on the local climate, just not the global climate. The pictures of the pollution in China demonstrate that fact quite clearly. However, none of that Chinese pollution has made it into the stratosphere. All human pollution is confined to the troposphere, therefore it cannot have a global effect.

Ideally, CO2 levels should be at least double or even triple current levels. The current interglacial period has been the coolest of the last eight so far. Warmer is better. Colder temperatures result in famine, disease, and wars for diminishing resources. So be careful for what you wish for, you may just get it.
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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All of those spheres are global, air and pollution know no borders.
Global is the sum of local.
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