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Old 03-06-2014, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
Do you understand that if one defaults on the 3rd mortgage or the 2nd or an HELOC, that is a default, right?

Do you understand that pursuant to federal banking regulations, at 120 days late the bank is required by law to foreclose?

You understand the banks have no choice in this matter, right?

And you understand that it has been that way for decades and decades, right?
You are deflecting. Do you understand that?
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes, and most of the benefit from the stock market goes to the wealthy
Quit envying the wealthy, and count your blessings. Maybe your profits are not as great as your neighbors, but why can't you be happy that you are making a profit?
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That would make most Americans wealthy. Is that really such a bad thing?
The wealthy have far more invested...
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The wealthy have far more invested...
Quit envying the wealthy, and count your blessings. Maybe your profits are not as great as your neighbors, but why can't you be happy that you are making a profit?
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Quit envying the wealthy, and count your blessings. Maybe your profits are not as great as your neighbors, but why can't you be happy that you are making a profit?
I'm not envying the wealthy. It's the Democrats who do...
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why are households and non-profits grouped together?
Here is the answer:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...h-quarter.html

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Net worth for households and non-profit groups rose by $2.95 trillion in the fourth quarter, or 3.8 percent from the previous three months, to a record $80.7 trillion, the Federal Reserve said today from Washington in its financial accounts report, previously known as the flow of funds survey.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releas...rent/z1r-1.pdf

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Households and nonprofit organizations sector (tables F.100 and L.100)
Estimates for this sector are largely residuals and are derived from data for other sectors. Availability of data depends on schedules for other sectors. Data for consumer credit, which are estimated directly, are available through 2013
:Q4. The source for nonprofit organizations data (tables F.100.a andL.100.a) is the Internal Revenue Service Statistics of Income. Data for nonprofit organizations are available for 1987 through 2000.
Definition: Individual Investors, Households, Nonprofit Organizations

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Nonprofits account for about 6% of this sector's financial assets, but they own a larger share of some of the individual financial instruments held by the sector. Non-profits are included because data for them are not available separately, except for the years 1987 to 1996.
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This sector accounts for about 40% of financial assets of all sectors combined (1997). For most categories of financial assets, the values for the household sector are calculated as residuals. Amounts held or owed by other sectors are subtracted from known totals, and the remainders are assumed to be the amounts owed or held by the household sector.
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm not envying the wealthy. It's the Democrats who do...
You are the one complaining about it. Are you a Democrat?
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You are the one complaining about it. Are you a Democrat?
No, I'm not (to both points). You are a Democrat or Democrat-leaning indie and I was pointing out the irony.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:13 PM
 
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According to Pew Research in Nov 2013, 52% of Americans own stock:

Dow soars, but only about half of Americans will benefit | Pew Research Center

So a good percentage of Americans do hold stock, either directly or indirectly.
that tells you nothing about how much stock they own, which is what i said.

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However, the Bloomberg article in my OP is talking about household wealth in general, which also includes home values.

And household wealth rising is a good thing, no matter how you view it.

This number is moving in the RIGHT direction!
i don't agree with that either.

household wealth means home values are rising

rising home values make homes less affordable for renters. so no, housing wealth isn't an unalloyed blessing, either.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No, I'm not (to both points). You are a Democrat or Democrat-leaning indie and I was pointing out the irony.
I dont recall ever complaining about anyone having too much money, but you are doing that here.
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