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Old 03-10-2014, 11:24 AM
 
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Venezuela was the American left's wet dream since Chavez took power.

Now it's a broken country with hungry people and they want to point to a Nordic country with a homogenous population and a work ethic as their REAL wet dream.

Except none of them have a work ethic. They want free sh*t, just like the Venezuelans.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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Venezuela was the American left's wet dream since Chavez took power.

Now it's a broken country with hungry people and they want to point to a Nordic country with a homogenous population and a work ethic as their REAL wet dream.

Except none of them have a work ethic. They want free sh*t, just like the Venezuelans.
Pretty much!
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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China- Recently, the Chinese economy has become more geared towards capitalism
Free market capitalism? You just gotta be kidding me.


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Denmark- As a result, they also have the highest taxes in the world
Who has the most disposable income in the world?

Disposable Personal Income - Countries - List

Perhaps if you started reading classical economics and enlightenment era political philosophers you might get the idea on how to actually compute it.


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Sweden- has a large welfare system, but due to a high national debt, required much government intervention in the economy

Ireland- Around 25 percent of Ireland’s GDP goes towards paying for the welfare system

Belgium- The welfare system causes much of the country’s budget deficit though, and so is considered by some to be a burden on society.


No thanks ... Tho Canada and Finland do sound good but remember they rank way better then America in many categories as well.
Blah blah blah, *** *** ***.....avoiding that it still falsifies your statement.


What ruined the Ottoman empire ? How about Austria-Hungry? Was that socialism? Was Marx really a civilization destroying demon that just inhabited is body? Of course never mind he was not even a socialist...but who cares about accuracy?
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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Free market capitalism? You just gotta be kidding me.



Who has the most disposable income in the world?

Disposable Personal Income - Countries - List

Perhaps if you started reading classical economics and enlightenment era political philosophers you might get the idea on how to actually compute it.




Blah blah blah, *** *** ***.....avoiding that it still falsifies your statement.


What ruined the Ottoman empire ? How about Austria-Hungry? Was that socialism? Was Marx really a civilization destroying demon that just inhabited is body? Of course never mind he was not even a socialist...but who cares about accuracy?
Too bad you'll never learn from past mistakes and will just keep repeating them at the expense of innocent people world wide.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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Free market capitalism? You just gotta be kidding me.



Who has the most disposable income in the world?

Disposable Personal Income - Countries - List

Perhaps if you started reading classical economics and enlightenment era political philosophers you might get the idea on how to actually compute it.




Blah blah blah, *** *** ***.....avoiding that it still falsifies your statement.


What ruined the Ottoman empire ? How about Austria-Hungry? Was that socialism? Was Marx really a civilization destroying demon that just inhabited is body? Of course never mind he was not even a socialist...but who cares about accuracy?
Are you high or something? You posted a link with THIS information. Get a clue
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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First off learn what socialism is. Nordic states are not socialist, they are not even furthest to the left in the eu. Venezuela is in a total different category.

Oh right I need to learn..

Swedish Social Democratic Party (SAP) (political party, Sweden) -- Encyclopedia Britannica
Swedish Social Democratic Party (SAP), byname of Swedish Social Democratic Workers’ Party, Swedish Sveriges Socialdemokratiska Arbetarepartiet, socialist political party in Sweden, the country’s oldest existing political party. From its founding in 1889, the SAP has been committed to the creation of an egalitarian society. It has led Sweden’s government for most of the period since 1932.
I provide citations and yet the babbling continues ....




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Also you are terrible confused if you think the dollar shortage is not caused by Maduro and Chavez. The only reason they have a shortage is because they have a fixed currency rate together with massive inflation. Since they are socialists they think they can control the currency, but in reality they can't.

And it's not Dutch disease or mismanagement. It is socialism that is problem.

You are not only confused, you don't even have a single fact to choose from. I already told you I have actually been overseas recently with "the dollar shortage".



You are competently clueless.

Babacan advises emerging markets on dollar shortage - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily news

Deputy Prime Minister Ali Babacan claimed on Monday that emerging markets will become much more attractive in the near future and advised emerging markets on the upcoming dollar shortage.


Emerging Market Banking Crises Are Next - Forbes

inancial headlines have rightly been dominated by the largest 7-day sell-off of the Chinese yuan on record. Everyone’s speculating whether it’s been a deliberate move by the People’s Bank of China (PBOC) or not. The consensus is that it’s been PBOC initiated to shake out carry trade speculators who’ve used low US interest rates to borrow low-yielding US dollars and buy the higher-yielding yuan and yuan-denominated assets. This before a move to increase the daily trading band for the yuan. A minority believe the yuan has unraveled of its own accord driven by a shortage of US dollars leading to the liquidation of yuan instruments. Either way, carry trades are being quickly unwound.
But hey here a CD, it doesn't matter.....
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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Too bad you'll never learn from past mistakes and will just keep repeating them at the expense of innocent people world wide.

Too bad all I see is nothing but one sentence of a worthless post..... Do any of the lot of you have anything to offer but this complete junk?
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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Are you high or something? You posted a link with THIS information. Get a clue

Do you actually even have an argument? Does anyone?


I keep asking simple question like how did socialism cause all the ills of the world before its recent invention? I keep pointing out the things that have done it for eons are still at work today. Disposable income is the main metric of economic freedom.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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Do you actually even have an argument? Does anyone?


I keep asking simple question like how did socialism cause all the ills of the world before its recent invention? I keep pointing out the things that have done it for eons are still at work today. Disposable income is the main metric of economic freedom.
Go start a new thread if you want to discuss that.

This is about what Chavez/Maduro's policies have done to Venezuela causing food shortages.

Price controls and currency manipulation put agriculture there out of business.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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Funny to as suspect almost the exact same destabilization replay in Ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_V..._confrontation


There is no consensus as to who was responsible for the deaths on 11 April 2002, and this remains one of the most controversial issues in Venezuelan politics today. The opposition version of events puts the blame on Chávez, or at least on his supporters. A Venevisión camera positioned on a rooftop that afternoon captured images of people using handguns to shoot from the pro-Chávez counter-march being held on Puente Llaguno, an overpass that crosses one of central Caracas's busiest avenues; it is unclear who they are shooting at, but the opposition narrative is that they were shooting at the opposition march and responsible for the deaths.[50] The gunmen argue that they were, in fact, returning fire at unknown snipers and Metropolitan Police firing towards them. The documentary The Revolution Will Not Be Televised shows footage captured from another angle by an amateur cameraman of the gunmen firing while the street below is empty; another documentary, X-Ray of a Lie argues the former's footage obscures Metropolitan Police trucks on the street below. The 2004 documentary Puente Llaguno: Claves de una Masacre showed that the Chavistas on the bridge did not begin shooting until 4:38 pm, by which time most of the opposition deaths had already occurred.[48] In addition, most of the opposition deaths were at least 300 yards away from the bridge, too far to be killed by the Chavistas' pistols with the precise head shots witnessed.[48]

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