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Old 03-18-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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You mean...like they did in Cuba?

I suppose we could use Cuba as an example. We certainly didn't like the idea of having their nukes 90 miles from our shores.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:41 AM
 
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I guess it is not a illegal act to stir up minority protestors and fund them to oust a elected Ukraine president which I am sure is against the Ukraine constitution. If you say that he fired on protestors so far there is no proof of that but if he did does that make him worse then us. If there was a protest in DC that turned non peaceful the U S gvt would do the same thing and you know it.

"fund minority protestors and fund them to oust a elected Ukraine president"?
Read again, please. His own parliament impeached him. Many complaints have been brought of theft on his part, as well as human rights abuses by his regime.
https://www.kyivpost.com/content/kyi...es-337287.html
https://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukr...nt-337335.html
Diplomatic talks in Ukraine end at dawn, a day after 100 may have died - CNN.com
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ukovych-Russia

Switzerland said it was ready to freeze any funds that Yanukovych might be keeping in its banks. The Swiss foreign minister said financial institutions had been ordered to show increased vigilance when dealing with Ukrainian funds. Yanukovych's son Oleksandr, who has amassed a fortune measured in the hundreds of millions of dollars in the past three years, opened a branch of his company, MAKO, in Geneva in 2011.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Hey man, if you don't count yourself among those conservatives who are cheering Putin or justifying his actions, then don't worry about it. The reputation of your fellow conservatives is ****e around the world no matter what I or anyone else says on this forum.

So just deal with it.





But the fact remains it's basically the right in America who has found it within otherwise frigid hearts to make excuses for Putin and relish in the lack of options facing Obama.

Because as long as it makes Obama look bad, it's... good!
This is nonsense, just turn on the left media or Fox news and you will hear the same thing that the U S is the good guys and the Russians are the bad guys. I am not making excuses for Putin but he is re acting from a situation that the west started and funded. Both the left and right partisans that can not agree on hardly anything have come together on Ukraine. Go figure.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What a joke.

Putin would not have even attempted this under McCain or Romney.

He sees Obama as a weak candy ass who sits on his hands and allow Russia to rebuild what the great Ronald Reagan tore down.

Thanks to Obama we now have a new COLD WAR going on.
Is that why he invaded Georgia?

He sees the weakness, but it is not Bush, or Obama, it is the partisan division, where US politicians are more interested in sabotaging the United States as opposed to speaking with one voice. Right now Putin's best ally is the GOP Congress, because he can count on them to oppose whatever moves the US will take, just he could count on Dem Congress opposing any move Bush made. The Congress should be ashamed of themselves. I am ashamed of seeing them go in front of TV cameras every day to cry about how weak the United States it. Someone ought to walk up to them in front of the TV cameras and slap them in the face and tell them to fight for the US, and not for the enemy.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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I'm glad we have Chamberlain II trumpeting we have "peace in our time". What a joke for a president!

Hint for the Obamaphiles, a true leader would not have allowed it to get this far.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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Not McCain since he's a sell out and a flunky pawn just like Obama. He's got military experience which is good, but that just underscores his lack of character.
Romney gets the nod just by virtue of not being Obama. I think he'd listen to the people more and not to the establishment as much. Would he be as controlled and be just a rubber stamp like Obama? Possibly, but at least we'd have a chance he wouldn't.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:53 AM
 
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Hint for the Obamaphiles, a true leader would not have allowed it to get this far.
Indeed. We started down this road from the day he was elected. Now we are there.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:54 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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No.

They are much stronger leaders than that weakling currently infesting the White House.
IF they really were strong leaders they would've led people to vote for themselves, eh?
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Strangely enough the pro-intervention neo-cons here claim to have voted for Ron Paul Heh-heh.

What do you think Ron Paul would do with this situation?

He would say it is none of our business, but he'd probably add sanctions. Yes, pretty much what we are doing right now.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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IF they really were strong leaders they would've led people to vote for themselves, eh?
Obama is a great election campaigner and good at nothing else.
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