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Old 03-13-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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Probably not, But when the only proposed solutions involved giving money to the rich via QE and other wealth transfers, its not like he can unilaterally change that in the middle of the crisis's that were occurring. Despite the insistence of many, he is not...in fact...a dictator.
If you want the middle class and bottom to truly be helped, then you have no choice but to stop draining the economy of any disposable income and giving it to the top.

Until then, by your own charts posted, he is the problem, and your own statement proves he is FLAT OUT WRONG..
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:03 PM
 
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Probably not, But when the only proposed solutions involved giving money to the rich via QE and other wealth transfers, its not like he can unilaterally change that in the middle of the crisis's that were occurring. Despite the insistence of many, he is not...in fact...a dictator.
No, he is just the one who picks the person that decides whether or not to give the hard earned money of the lower classes to the upper classes and he decided to double down on Bush's mistake.

Bush failed in picking Bernanke but how do you fail here again after Bernanke screwed up so badly?
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:15 PM
 
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Soooo your objection to Obama is that he has taken from the poor and middle incomes and given it to the top?

Probably the first time I've agreed with some of you. But...heres the thing. Obama isnt the one in charge of these things in any meaningful way you know?
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:16 PM
 
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No, he is just the one who picks the person that decides whether or not to give the hard earned money of the lower classes to the upper classes and he decided to double down on Bush's mistake.

Bush failed in picking Bernanke but how do you fail here again after Bernanke screwed up so badly?
The one time he tried to appoint someone who would do otherwise in any position of power (warren) the Republicans went nuts.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:23 PM
 
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Soooo your objection to Obama is that he has taken from the poor and middle incomes and given it to the top?
It has been for years.

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Probably the first time I've agreed with some of you. But...heres the thing. Obama isnt the one in charge of these things in any meaningful way you know?
He could have picked someone that wouldn't have done it. You only think you agree with me, you don't.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:26 PM
 
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The one time he tried to appoint someone who would do otherwise in any position of power (warren) the Republicans went nuts.
When he appointed Bernanke he had both the House and Senate under Dem control. Even doing your best to try and defend him no matter what there is absolutely no way anyone can defend nominating someone that had just failed in such a massive way that Bernanke had just done.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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Soooo your objection to Obama is that he has taken from the poor and middle incomes and given it to the top?

Probably the first time I've agreed with some of you. But...heres the thing. Obama isnt the one in charge of these things in any meaningful way you know?
yes he is, in the same way you like to blame Bush..
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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When he appointed Bernanke he had both the House and Senate under Dem control. Even doing your best to try and defend him no matter what there is absolutely no way anyone can defend nominating someone that had just failed in such a massive way that Bernanke had just done.
Please. If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes true? He had "control" for 4 months. nominating someone else would have been procedurally tied up for a year.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:44 PM
 
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Please. If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes true? He had "control" for 4 months. nominating someone else would have been procedurally tied up for a year.
Stop making excuses for failure.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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Please. If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes true? He had "control" for 4 months. nominating someone else would have been procedurally tied up for a year.
There is no lie there. He did not have to nominate the abject failure that was and is Ben Bernanke. Nobody could force him to nominate anyone. It was the perfect time for him to pick a fight if needed to be.

He failed. The country has suffered for it. So don't preach to us about income inequality when you can't even condemn one of the major reasons for it.
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