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Old 03-14-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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"The institution of marriage is the headstone of society."- Frank Burns
I was always a Hawkeye fan myself

As far as the institution of marriage, I think allowing for homosexuals who love one another to take part in marriage will do nothing more than enrich its strength.
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Old 03-14-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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In one sense, you would think that all the heterosexuals would be happy to see this happening. Prior to this time, the hetero's have had to pay the entire cost of supporting the community of divorce lawyers. Now the LGBT community can step up to the plate and pay their fair share.
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:07 PM
 
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The legal issue is that two parties entered into a contract in another state, and now both parties want to dissolve that contract. While marriage may be a special kind of contract, the full faith and credit clause requires states to accommodate such issues, including dissolution, of contracts entered into when the parties lived elsewhere.
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Old 03-14-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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Gay marriage has been illegal throughout the course of U.S. history. Maybe you should learn a little bit about it.
So was interracial marriage until the courts struck it down. Maybe you should learn a bit about history.
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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So was interracial marriage until the courts struck it down. Maybe you should learn a bit about history.
This thread isn't about interracial marriage, it's about gay marriage. Maybe you should learn a bit about reading.
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:43 PM
 
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This thread isn't about interracial marriage, it's about gay marriage. Maybe you should learn a bit about reading.
So it's ok for you to shift goal posts, but not others? Your first post in the religious right and divorce thread was an off topic derail, but apparently it's ok when you to do it.
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:58 PM
 
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I'm confused as to what the issue is here, same sex marriage is not recognized in Alabama, and it probably never will be, so why would they recognize or allow same sex divorces?

Also not sure why some people are bringing up interracial marriage. Its a completely different thing, so what's your point? Its largely irrelevant to this discussion.
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Old 03-14-2014, 03:06 PM
 
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I'm confused as to what the issue is here, same sex marriage is not recognized in Alabama, and it probably never will be, so why would they recognize or allow same sex divorces?

Also not sure why some people are bringing up interracial marriage. Its a completely different thing, so what's your point? Its largely irrelevant to this discussion.
The legal issue is that two parties entered into a contract in another state, and now both parties want to dissolve that contract. While marriage may be a special kind of contract, the full faith and credit clause requires states to accommodate such issues, including dissolution, of contracts entered into when the parties lived elsewhere.
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Old 03-14-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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The legal issue is that two parties entered into a contract in another state, and now both parties want to dissolve that contract. While marriage may be a special kind of contract, the full faith and credit clause requires states to accommodate such issues, including dissolution, of contracts entered into when the parties lived elsewhere.
Based on what grounds? If a state doesn't recognize the concept or legality of same sex marriage then why would they recognize or allow a divorce of a same sex couple who came from elsewhere?

This is why I want Government and Marriage to be separated. Get the Government out of Marriage entirely and these kinds of issues wouldn't exist. Secular Civil Contracts for everyone, regardless of the genders involved, Marriage should just be its own private thing among Churches, Synagogues, families etc.... It has no business being involved with the Government, or the Government being involved with it.
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Old 03-14-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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Based on what grounds? If a state doesn't recognize the concept or legality of same sex marriage then why would they recognize or allow a divorce of a same sex couple who came from elsewhere?

This is why I want Government and Marriage to be separated. Get the Government out of Marriage entirely and these kinds of issues wouldn't exist. Secular Civil Contracts for everyone, regardless of the genders involved, Marriage should just be its own private thing among Churches, Synagogues, families etc.... It has no business being involved with the Government, or the Government being involved with it.
Full Faith and Credit requires states to recognize contracts that have been joined in other states.

Marriage is a contract. Therefore, even if it illegal to enter into a certain kind of contract in one state, that state still has to have provisions for ending such contracts.

For instance, a state may place limits on the amount of interest a party can charge on a contracted loan. Another state may have a different limit. If one or both of the parties moves to the second state, the terms of the contract don't change to reflect the second state's different laws. And the second state still can legally dissolve the contract if both parties agree to do so.
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