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Old 03-14-2014, 09:58 AM
 
Location: South Bay
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Does she live in a bubble? Has she not seen any poll on the ACA?
You're talking about a woman who said "unemployment is the best job creator we have"

She has a brick missing from the chimney.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:00 AM
 
Location: South Bay
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I happen to agree with you here. Since ACA hasnt affected most of the public yet, (i.e. the employer mandate has continued to be delayed), I think overplaying the damage it'll cause pre damage, wont be understood until after it kicks in fully and people will get tired of hearing about it and tune it out.
I give more credit to the average Joe on either side. I think intelligent people have the ability to forward look and see the train wreck is coming.

Now if we are talking about ideologues, no, there's no hope.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Although I despise Ms. Pelosi, I think the GOP should NOT overestimate the usefulness of using ACA as a campaign issue. Just because polls show that most Americans don't like the ACA today doesn't mean that will drive their vote this fall. Obama isn't running again. So each candidate has to decide if the ACA is a useful campaign issue against his/her opponent.
With all due respect, I don't think the GOP COULD overestimate the usefulness of using the ACA as a campaign issue. Jolly beating Sink is Exhibit A.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Personally, I hope you guys keep it up because it belly flopped in the most recent special election. Now Republicans still won in a heavily Republican district but only barely so, no, it isn't a very strong issue for you guys.
Sink outspent Jolly and was leading in the polls just prior to the election.

Please tell me you are a DNC campaign strategist.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:06 AM
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Then why all the delays? Do Democrats hate americans and want to delay the wonderful benefits which exist for them?
THIS^ is the kind of ad I would be running.

Simply put, WHY have there been so many delays in this wonderful piece of legislation?

All you need to do is to plant the seeds of doubt. I think enough voters can connect the dots from there. Of course, the Republicans would be wise to come up with "the fix" for the abortion named after the most corrupt/inept president in US history.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:09 AM
 
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Pelosi is correct in one respect: It is fine and dandy to be against the ACA, but it is not the end all of the campaign, you have to BE for something. And with a written GOP platform that is in opposition of it's biggest party contributors, it is very hard to campaign seriously on those planks.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Personally, I hope you guys keep it up because it belly flopped in the most recent special election. Now Republicans still won in a heavily Republican district but only barely so, no, it isn't a very strong issue for you guys.
Would that be the special election where the democrap LOST and yet they're still trying to spin it as a GOP weakness? Orwell has nothing on 2014 liberal doublespeak.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Personally, I hope you guys keep it up because it belly flopped in the most recent special election. Now Republicans still won in a heavily Republican district but only barely so, no, it isn't a very strong issue for you guys.
A "heavily Republican" district that Obama won twice and where the Democrat was leading in the polls by a solid margin.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Although I despise Ms. Pelosi, I think the GOP should NOT overestimate the usefulness of using ACA as a campaign issue. Just because polls show that most Americans don't like the ACA today doesn't mean that will drive their vote this fall. Obama isn't running again. So each candidate has to decide if the ACA is a useful campaign issue against his/her opponent.
Midterm elections are often about the president even with the president not being on the ballot.

Remember also that Democrats in Congress voted for the ACA. It's not just Obama's baby, but the Democrats' baby.

I do agree that the GOP needs to be careful about how effective of an issue it will be in the election by itself. Opposition to Obamacare seems to be the main thing they're running on and they do need more.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I'll say this about Ms. Pelosi because some words are now banned, she is straight up cray-cray. She moved for the bill to go forward without having the public decide it was good policy, then she has complained about anytime republicans in the house after 2011 have tried to vote the law out (wasted efforts if you as me but let's remember it got passed without a public conservation on how public healthcare should work) and now is saying it shouldn't be used for a talking point.

I agree it shouldn't but iff your district is hurting from the law, it is an issue for the elections and will be until it is replaced by something else that both sides can agree on.
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