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Old 03-16-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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Frankly, a shirt with "POLICE" stenciled across it shouldn't be a security risk either since it's the badge that conveys the authority, not something any goof off teenager with $5 could do in their parents' garage.
Technically not correct. What conveys the authority is the warrant card, an identity card issued to law enforcement which grants them the authority to conduct their job. The badge is for show. You can buy a badge online today and have it customized so it represents pretty much any police department you want.

This is similar to the DOD card referred to above.
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Old 03-16-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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Here in reality the military is often used during emergencies and catastrophic events. Think it's a good idea having people walking around playing army man?
That's very rare.
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Well yes, true the badge is just a piece of metal, but I've never seen real life plain-clothes or semi-uniformed (department polo shirt and open-carry vs. fully uniformed officers with all the equipment) officers wear their warrant card in as obvious a manner as their badge.
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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Just a quick question, any idea what someone has to go through to be a Ranger?

Who cares, I'm sick of the jingoistic deification of everything military. Reminds me a lot of the people who go crazy over a football team......kinda moronic.

What that man in uniform was doing is NOT illegal.....leave him the **** alone!
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Old 03-16-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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The reasons they called him out are still bull****. You have made no effort to challenge that simple truth.

The only one of us apparently playing the denial game is you.
The very fact that you don't understand it, and are unwilling to even have a conversation about it, is why I stated it is of no use to even bother with you. You don't even want to hear it. I would have a better debate with a brick wall, it would be more responsive.
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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LOL - you just have to generally pity such people, as they clearly have issues.

https://www.causes.com/causes/649540...n-this-picture

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Old 03-17-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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It's only illegal if you profit somehow from it.

Otherwise, any stolen valor laws should be unconstitutional.
Where is lying that you were awarded citations and awards from the federal government protected? Those awards, ranks, citations etc... are issued by and controlled by the federal government, so they can control who falsely lay claim to having received them.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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I never served but i do appreciate the men and women that do and have in this country. I have a family member that did 2 terms tho. I respect them and what they have to go thru. This man posing as a FAKE should be ashamed of himself , its disrespectful and rude not only to the people alive but to the people that passed away being a REAL soldier.

The guys in the video def flipped out on him lol but i can see where he is coming from. I think he could of done it in a better way but hey , when your a fake you are a fake.
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Old 03-17-2014, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Where is lying that you were awarded citations and awards from the federal government protected?
According to the Supreme Court, it is protected by the First Amendment.

Court Holds Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional, dismisses First American Financial v. Edwards : SCOTUSblog

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Those awards, ranks, citations etc... are issued by and controlled by the federal government, so they can control who falsely lay claim to having received them.
SCOTUS disagrees.
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Old 03-17-2014, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The very fact that you don't understand it, and are unwilling to even have a conversation about it, is why I stated it is of no use to even bother with you. You don't even want to hear it. I would have a better debate with a brick wall, it would be more responsive.
I heard it completely. I just don't consider chasing red herring a "debate."

What I am unwilling to have a conversation about is your whining about subjective crap concerning which you can honestly claim to know nothing, and that has nothing to do with the reasons that the guys in the video gave for calling him out.

The simple fact is that the reasons the guys gave are bull****. The evidence of the video is actually more damning to those guys than it is to the poor bastard they're going after. Because much of what they say is simply objectvely factually wrong.
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