Since the Democrats can't blame Bush for Obamacare, who do they blame? (dollar, states)
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My son is out of college and looking for work. Thus, he doesn't have HC on his own.
Insurance companies that provide employer health coverage aren't bothered with keeping offspring on the plan. So why do you?
Your post is a prime example of how conservatives have devolved morally. If you are temporarily unemployed, you are a leach, not worthy of coverage.
I asked you how its being paid for if not by raising premiums on others. because YOU are the one who runs around telling others their lying when they said their premiums went up..
I didnt ask you to tell me how the economy is in the ****hole, and your son cant find a job. We're well aware of the current state of the economy. YOU are the one who continues to argue how wonderful it is...
When your car insurance pays for fixing your car do you go around thanking all other insured drivers for that?
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I asked you how its being paid for if not by raising premiums on others. because YOU are the one who runs around telling others their lying when they said their premiums went up..
I didnt ask you to tell me how the economy is in the ****hole, and your son cant find a job. We're well aware of the current state of the economy. YOU are the one who continues to argue how wonderful it is...
The poster is insured by his employer's large group healthcare plan. Pre ACA eligibility of adult children was determined at the state level. Eligibility at the state level ranged from 19 to 31. That a federal law created a baseline age leveled the playing field.
Some employers choose to subsidies the cost of insuring qualified adult children of their employees. Most do not. Employees pay their employers large group healthcare rates. I am sorry you don't approve.
So you're admitting i'm correct, that the cost gets paid by others, which would cause premiums to rise, while arguing with me.
Isn't the president's popularity rating higher than that of congress, across party lines. Seems to me the people are tired of the toddlers in the sandbox throwing sand at each other while crying " you are a stinky poo" 24/7.
um, yeah.. it usually is.. Individual ratings are more than often higher than group ratings no matter whats being discussed..
Your article is from Forbes and Forbes is using an opinion piece as the basis for it reasoning, before you say someone is lying, read your own source material
If you have employer-based healthcare you should be thanking the rest of us for YOUR subsidized healthcare all these years.
Arent you tired of being embarrased by posting this same crap over and over again?
once again, an employer expense is NOT a subsidy. how old are you?
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What was and remains missing is a comparison of costs on a level playing field, in terms of benefits, 50 unique state laws and markets within states.
My state has 13 unique individual plan markets and costs are not constant amongst markets. Those who live in highly competitive healthcare markets pay less than those in less competitive markets.
Back when, during the Hillarycare debates, the plan was for regional, cross state markets. Republicans went nuts and insisted that their state appointed insurance commissions and laws be protected. To avoid a repeat, ACA did not attempt to cross the protected state rights issue.
There is no federal law that precludes insurance from being sold across state lines. That's a state issue, as determined by politically appointed insurance commissions. If insurance is sold across a state line, benefits are governed by the insurer's state, regardless of the laws within the insured's state.
The irony that some Republicans and conservative think tanks now recommend the federal government allow insurers to write plans across states seems to ignore there is no federal law that prevents this and that no 2 states have the same laws, let alone very different individual plan markets.
Imagine how much cheaper insurance could be if it were unnecessary for the people to pay the incremental costs of sustaining 50 different appointed insurance commissions and laws/ regulations and compliance.
So you're admitting Obama lied when he said premiums would fall $2500 per family?
In the long run with the proper information I think that it will. You have to admit even if it is not to everyone's liking it is a start. My probelm with certain factions is that instead of fixing what is wrong they want to dismantle it altogether just for personal and political gains and the hell with the people who really need healthcare
How long is it going to take to get that information out? Jeez, I would have started with that!
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So you're admitting i'm correct, that the cost gets paid by others, which would cause premiums to rise, while arguing with me.
