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View Poll Results: What will be the results of US giving up internet control ?
huge internet taxes 3 13.04%
abuse of american citizens by the new controllers of internet 0 0%
loss of free speech on internet 2 8.70%
internet shut downs at critical times by US enemies 0 0%
spying on US citizens by terrorist groups 0 0%
all of the above 11 47.83%
none of the above 10 43.48%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-15-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What control did Obama have over the internet in the first place.

It wasn't his to give up. Someone had to take it in order to give it away.
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Old 03-15-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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Al Gore isn't going to like his invention being given away.
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Old 03-15-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Are you referring to domain extensions (.com, .shop, .photos...) or to domain names (ie cnn.com). If the former you still have to get your extension approved by ICANN - this is a long and expensive process where you have to demonstrate you have the capital, resources and expertise to maintain a registry. If the latter then you can currently make up any random domain name you want - within a certain character set. There are currently protocols in place (IDN) to allow domains so be typed in non-latin characters (Chinese, Japanese..) and I believe there are plans to make this easier - so someone in Japan doesn't need a latin keyboard to enter a domain name. This is actually a situation where a body like ICANN is needed to develop standards and protocols. Or do you want to force worldwide users communicate with a latin keyboard? Why not let a Chinese business advertise their 都市データ.com site?

Internationalized domain name - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ICANN did do just that and has relinquished that job.
They regulated domain name suffixes.
They are the ones that ruled in 2011 about the arbitrary names and non Latin characters.
The amount of money is $185K with your application.


New Internet Name Rule Opens Door to Huge Changes
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Old 03-15-2014, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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ICANN did do just that and has relinquished that job.
They regulated domain name suffixes.
They are the ones that ruled in 2011 about the arbitrary names and non Latin characters.
The amount of money is $185K with your application.


New Internet Name Rule Opens Door to Huge Changes
Note that all this happened while under "US control" - not that ICANN has relinquished anything. $185000 is just a non-refundable application fee. For example there are 12 applicants for .app who are racking up additional ICANN fees and their own expenses and lawyer fees. I'm hoping Amazon, one of the applicants, doesn't get chosen by ICANN to run the .app registry as they will run it and .music as closed extensions. Only Amazon services would use the .app and .music extensions - domain registration would not be available to the public or to other companies.

The following 64 applications have been approved and assigned by ICANN and are now available for pre-order:
https://www.name.com/preorder

.ceo .email .builders .support .solutions .training .company .computer .center .systems .academy .management .foundation .exposed .uno .wiki .watch .cool .zone .cheap .boutique .bargains .agency .viajes .farm .codes .marketing .holiday .florist .house .international .coffee .solar .repair .institute .glass .education .camp .rocks .consulting .works .expert .futbol .reviews .social .immobilien .ninja .republican .rich .dance. democrat .luxury .club .photo .link .guitars .pics .gift .build .在线 .中文网 .buzz .onl
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Old 03-15-2014, 02:21 PM
 
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Scenario 1: Obama not turn internet over to global body. Conservatives scream too much government!

Scenario 2: Obama turns internet over to global body. Conservative scream bloody murder!

Scenario 3: God takes conservatives to heaven. The world prospers.
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Old 03-15-2014, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Default Obama gives US control of internet to unUnited nations

The U.S. government’s plan to give away authority over the Internet’s core architecture to the “global Internet community” could endanger the security of both the Internet and the U.S. — and open the door to a global tax on Web use.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...799_print.html

Read more: Bush official: Internet giveaway weakens security, opens tax | The Daily Caller

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Old 03-15-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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There is already another fear mongering thread on this: Why the hell would Obama do this? relinquish

ICANN "under US control" already charge 18 cents per domain registration. Call it a "global tax" if you must but most just call it a fee to cover the costs of their role.
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Old 03-15-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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There is already another fear mongering thread on this: Why the hell would Obama do this? relinquish

ICANN "under US control" already charge 18 cents per domain registration. Call it a "global tax" if you must but most just call it a fee to cover the costs of their role.
There is far more to it than just domain registrations..

one doesnt need a domain to open up a website
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Old 03-15-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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Giving up "control of the internet!". OMG! Sounds real scary until you look up exactly what the US is giving up - a clerical role in the assignment of top level domain extensions (.com, .net, .shop...)
The US never had clarical role in domain name extensions..
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Old 03-15-2014, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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There is far more to it than just domain registrations..

one doesnt need a domain to open up a website
The poll is assigning powers and capabilities to ICANN that it doesn't possess. Instead of a fuzzy "controls the internet" please explain how ICANN could do anything on the list (apart from a per domain registration fee that already exists).
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