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Old 03-17-2014, 10:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
"lack of perfection" nice word play.
Ceding control to criminal$ who staff regulatory agencies and legislatures is never an appropriate answer. Individuals should decide whats best for them.
Utter nonsense. You have not got one facet of your daily life that is governed solely by yourself, not one, even the biffy you sit on for your daily constitution is governed to requirements you benefit from.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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No, I called you out on a lie. You claimed that the government forced food manufacturers to add vitamins and other nutrients to food products but could not name the law or regulation that was used for that purpose. You're either misinformed or deliberately lying here.

I know for a fact that there is no vitamin content requirement for food.




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Are you a disbelievin'?

Research it yourself.

Or, are you suggesting that public controversy caused the industry to "enrich" "food" without force?
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Ovaltine banned in Canada! My guess is Big Pharma is involved with the CFIA much the same as they control our FDA.

Marmite, Irn-Bru and Bovril banned in Canada after they fall foul of food additive rules - Americas - World - The Independent
Except it's NOT banned in Canada.

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency wants the country to take a deep breath and have a calming sip of sugar-free Irn-Bru. The government agency released a statement over the weekend declaring that the Scottish beverage—along with Marmite, Ovaltine, Bovril and other British foodstuffs—are not banned in Canada, as was widely reported last week.

Marmite and Irn-Bru
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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No, I called you out on a lie. You claimed that the government forced food manufacturers to add vitamins and other nutrients to food products but could not name the law or regulation that was used for that purpose. You're either misinformed or deliberately lying here.

I know for a fact that there is no vitamin content requirement for food.
The "law" is in the scientific and governmental definition of food.

The government refuses to classify sugar (alone) as a food, even though it's sold in food stores!

Lot a sh*t sold in food stores ain't food.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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What IS banned in Canada are things like the AZO dyes contained therein, which exacerbates asthma, contraindicated for people allergic to aspirin. etc.
Did you know that American milk is banned in Canada?

Why is American Milk Banned in Europe?
  • American dairy milk is genetically-modified unless it’s labeled “NO rBGH”
  • Genetically-engineered bovine growth hormone (rBGH) in milk increases cancer risks.
American dairy farmers inject rBGH to dairy cows to increase milk production.
European nations and Canada have banned rBGH to protect citizens from IGF-1 hazards.
Milk: America's Health Problem | American Nutrition Association
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:24 AM
 
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Where is that governmental definition of food you're talking about? You claim something exists then when called out on your confabulations you fail to provide any references.
That's a very dishonest tactic.



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The "law" is in the scientific and governmental definition of food.

The government refuses to classify sugar (alone) as a food, even though it's sold in food stores!

Lot a sh*t sold in food stores ain't food.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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No, I called you out on a lie. You claimed that the government forced food manufacturers to add vitamins and other nutrients to food products but could not name the law or regulation that was used for that purpose. You're either misinformed or deliberately lying here.

I know for a fact that there is no vitamin content requirement for food.
Maybe you're right.

I may have been confusing money with food.

"At the start of the 1950's the resources of FDA were seriously deficient. Appropriations and staff, never adequate, remained at approximately the levels prevailing in 1938 when Congress passed the present basic Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, greatly increasing the Agency's responsibilities. In 1954, Commissioner Charles W. Crawford won approval by Nelson Rockefeller, undersecretary of the department, for the appointment of a representative Citizens Advisory Committee on the FDA, to study the adequacy of enforcement. The committee, adopting recommendations drafted by a distinguished industry lawyer, Charles Wesley Dunn, recommended a three-to fourfold increase in funds, to be accomplished in 5 to 10 years. The budget makers and the Congress were impressed by the committee's report, and a spectacular increase in FDA appropriations has since occurred -- from a $5 million budget in 1955 to over $320 million in 1980, with a staff increase from less than 1,000 to over 7,000."

The Story of the Laws Behind the Labels
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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Where is that governmental definition of food you're talking about? You claim something exists then when called out on your confabulations you fail to provide any references.
That's a very dishonest tactic.
Still, though, let's hear YOUR definition of food.

Here's an accepted definition: food: definition of food in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Then, we can move into the FDA's definition of food.

Since the FDA administers "food", you would think they would have the ability to define it, wouldn't you?

Maybe they just use the dictionary definition.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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Stop deflecting like a five years old and prove that the government forced food companies to add vitamins to their products by posting links to actual regulation mandating it or admit you're clueless.

I know for a fact that there is no such a regulation in the US, food doesn't have to contain any vitamins to be considered food.







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Still, though, let's hear YOUR definition of food.

Here's an accepted definition: food: definition of food in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Then, we can move into the FDA's definition of food.

Since the FDA administers "food", you would think they would have the ability to define it, wouldn't you?

Maybe they just use the dictionary definition.
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Old 03-17-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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So don't buy Ovaltine or don't buy vitamin supplements. Why do they need government to wipe their butts?
It's Canadians doing what's best for Canadians.

Wrong or right, it's THEIR country.
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